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How to lose a Gus in 10 games...

Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:18 am
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:18 am
I know he has a tremendous buyout, but we have seen other schools pony up to fire a coach (Taggart is owed $18m from FSU, this is offset by his current salary at FAU).

Auburn fired Tuberville in 2008 and paid a roughly $5m buyout. 2012, Auburn fired Chizik and paid roughly $9m.

The common theme with both 2008 and 2012 is that the wheels came off, complete disaster of a season. This is something that Gus has avoided while underperforming during his tenure.

I am sure there are boosters and decision makers that could swing his termination, but have yet to pull the trigger because of his decent record and large buyout.

Keep in mind that if Gus gets a new job, that salary will offset his buyout. I believe Gus would get a P5 job and keep working for $2-3m/year if he were fired.

Both 2008 and 2012 had something in common, a fricking loser, bad fit of an OC hire (Franklin and Loeffler).

I think this could be the trainwreck of a season that we need with the addition of Chad Morris to finally rid us of Gus. Fingers crossed.
This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 8:34 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20856 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:56 am to
Upvote for thread title. Unfortunately, I think mediocre Gus will win enough games for the mediocre powers that be to give him another year.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45202 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:58 am to
Gus is Mark Richt. Wins/recruits just enough to not be fired.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20856 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:00 am to
I wish Gus was Mark Richt. Richt won 10+ games regularly. He also won bowl games. He also beat his rivals.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30930 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:06 am to
There’s a good chance we lose to Arkansas. Our o&d lines are that bad.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:06 am to
Eventually, Mark Richt ran out of time.

I hope Gus meets the same fate soon.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:10 am to
Get that motherfricker a mistress and a motorcycle.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:59 am to
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I wish Gus was Mark Richt. Richt won 10+ games regularly. He also won bowl games. He also beat his rivals.



No you don't. lol.

Gus is Richt. Richt couldn't take Ga to consistently challenge for a NC. He won more games than Gus, but he still had trouble with his biggest rival FL, at one time he was 2-7. He didn't have to play Bama every year either.

They are more alike, other than Richt could win more BGs.

That is why Richt is gone, and GA hung on to him for what, 15 years.

Could we deal with Gus' track record for another 7 years?
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41517 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:18 am to
quote:

There’s a good chance we lose to Arkansas. Our o&d lines are that bad.


Don’t do this to yourself. We all deep down know you’ll beat us by 20+ and that will reinvigorate talk that Morris has finally changed the offense and things are looking up big time. It’s just what happens when Gus plays Arkansas.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:20 am to
If the wheels fall off I think Auburn’s AD finds the money to end it this year

But we’d be talking 3-7 type meltdown I think.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:24 am to
quote:

If the wheels fall off I think Auburn’s AD finds the money to end it this year

Jimmy Rane should be rolling in cash right now. Construction is in full swing and lumber is in short supply and expensive as hell.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:26 am to
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Jimmy Rane should be rolling in cash right now.


Flipping through yesterday, I saw the Yellawood 500 was on. Baw done sponsored a Nascar race, times are good!
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30930 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:26 am to
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But we’d be talking 3-7 type meltdown I think.


I don’t think that is out of the question. Kentucky coaching staff bailed us out 2 weeks ago.

I think we can beat USCe and TAMU. Do not know about the Mississippi schools, Tennessee, and Arkansas.

LSU and Bama will kill us.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44143 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:26 am to
I'll never actively route for Auburn to lose, but I want Gus gone at this point. 0-11 on the road vs LSU, Alabama, and Georgia is totally unacceptable.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45202 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:28 am to
You vastly underestimate Gus. He will lose to Ole Miss/MSU and win the rest. We can't make this decision off of this season's W/L. Road Ls vs rivals should be the justification.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:41 am to
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Kentucky coaching staff bailed us out 2 weeks ago.


Refs bailed us out at the end of the first half.

They score a TD there, who knows how that game ends.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19727 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:14 am to
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Keep in mind that if Gus gets a new job, that salary will offset his buyout. I believe Gus would get a P5 job and keep working for $2-3m/year if he were fired.
From USA Today article last fall:
quote:

Massive coaching buyouts — and salaries, generally — are nothing new. At least 83 FBS head coaches will make $1 million this year, including Malzahn, whose $6.83 million in total compensation ranks sixth in this year's database. Fifty-three coaches would also be due $5 million or more if they were fired without cause on Dec. 1, though some would have a contractual obligation to look for a new job and mitigate the payout.

Malzahn's deal has no such provision. If he is fired without cause at any point, he is due 75% of whatever is left on the deal, without restrictions. Half of his buyout, or roughly $13.5 million as of Dec. 1, would be due in a lump-sum payment within 30 days of his departure.
Firing Gustav this calendar year would cost us a little more than $21 million, with roughly $10.5 million due within a month of his termination.

His future salary would NOT count against AU's obligation to pay out the remainder of his deal.

Add the staff buyouts and we would probably be looking at $25-30 million. Or, roughly the size of the hole in our budget due to limited ticket sales this season. Even if we went cheap and hired some nobody at the low end of the salary scale, we would still end up paying another $5 million more to hire a new HC/staff.

Can the AU AD afford to take what may amount to a >$60 million hit? And even if they could, would it be wise to do so?
This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 11:15 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20856 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:49 pm to
Do you not think the new HC would try to hold onto some of the staff? Especially the defensive staff
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:54 pm to
Gus will go 6-4. He is an 8-5 coach, so he wins at 60% clip. One year he won 70% of his games, this board went insane and we gave him $36 million.

Auburn will lose to UGa, LSU, Bama per usual. Throw in Tennessee this year because they have better lines.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 12:55 pm to
No he’d bring in his own guys
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