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re: Kirby Smart is officially a 1/3 of the way through Richt's tenor. When is a NC required?

Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:19 pm to

Kirby had better recruits when he came to Georgia. See previous four year classes for both programs.

Mullen MADE the players he had better. He is a better developer. Smart is a better recruiter. Mullen is one of the best developers in the game, he took guys underachieving and found a way to use them incredibly well. I mean freak we won four games the previous year.

Georgia had more five stars, and a higher blue chip rating on the roster when kirby arrived. Them not being drafted like Mullens kids only shows he does not develop as well, not that he had less talent to work with.

Mullen had a roster with I believe one five star, and the lowest blue chip ratio UF has had since recruit rankings started. We were absolutely not loaded.



Smart is a better recruiter and has Georgia set up insanely well. He built an amazing foundation. He does seem to have issues getting buy in from players at times for some reason, and getting the most out of the absurd talent he has recruited(especially on the offensive side).

Mullen is a better talent developer, I mean arguing otherwise is simply foolish. He has to improve recruiting overall to overtake Georgia on a yearly basis for sure though. Not recruit as good, because of his talent developing, but closer than he has been.

As for game day they are both similar. Smart a brilliant defensive mind but makes crazy decisions at times. Mullen is a brilliant offensive mind but also makes bat shite crazy moves at times.

They are both elite at the things theu excel at, but have they have to fix the problems each has to reach the finish line. Kind of that simple.

Both have safe jobs. Both are great coaches. Neither is elite yet. They both have that potential though.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 10:21 pm
Posted by ugacdawg
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2017
418 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:34 pm to
You can argue that Mullen is better at extracting talent on offense but he’s had a decade+ to learn how. Kirby is easily as good at getting elite play from his defenses. He lost his DC last year and the defense got better. We’ll see within five years if Kirbys strengths or Dan’s result in more SEC championships and playoff births. But regardless, winning a natty these days requires a lot of luck after you’ve fielded a team with top five talent levels.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33166 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:14 pm to
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Kirby had better recruits when he came to Georgia.


The NFL told us who had the best talent in the 1st 2 draft classes: 12 to 7 draft picks is an obvious UF advantage.

That proved my claim that people understated UF's roster with misleading claims like
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I mean freak we won four games the previous year.
and overstated UGA's roster with "they won 10 games in 2015". In actuality, both of those teams were far closer to each other once you look past the surface.

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He is a better developer.


Debatable. Make no mistake about it, Kirby has proven to be an excellent developer. For example, low rated recruits Deandre Baker and JR Reed both were All-Americans, and we are churning out high draft picks at OL and RB.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20466 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:25 pm to
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I mean freak we won four games the previous year.
We almost lost to Georgia Southern in 2015. That “10” win season gets pointed out a lot, but that 2015 team was awful. Barely beating terrible teams, blown out playing their only decent competition.

I mean, could you imagine.... LOSING to Georgia Southern? (Sorry, couldn’t resist)
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