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re: USC not LSU real nation champion for 03-04 season?

Posted on 7/17/08 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 7/17/08 at 5:27 pm to
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After USC handily beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl and Oklahoma lost to LSU in the national title game, the media exploded and began lobbying for the Trojans' share of the title, which they received from AP voters. Nuff said!


Never in the history of the AP whan a #1 won its bowl convincingly and over a ranked team have they relinquished the #1 spot. Same was true until 2003 for the coaches poll (per the agreement with the BCS). Nuff said!
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 7/17/08 at 5:29 pm to
i was not talking specifically about 03
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 7/17/08 at 5:31 pm to
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I like the current PAC format, its much better than CCG IMO. But with a 12 team league, it would be impractical


i know impactical. but many here argue the cof camp. game makes for a better conf. champion. i say no, because everyone does not play each other. still impactical in 12 team conferences
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/17/08 at 5:46 pm to
well you guys all play each other, so I see no need for a CCG, if ya'll were split into divisions yeah, plus ya'll play ND every year, in the old days that was a tough game, but SEC is a tougher conference from top to bottom, round robin for them might have a 3 loss winner.
This post was edited on 7/17/08 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/17/08 at 6:33 pm to
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I can remember them being labeled the best offense of the past 25 years!


The same offense that blew teams away left and right....got about 190yrds of offense!! I don't think they broke 100 until the 4th quarter!! Look it up...yeah, USC would've really laid the wood to LSU
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/17/08 at 6:37 pm to
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USC can claim they were the best team and would have beaten LSU if they had played in a bowl. I think UGA has stated their case too.


USC lost to STANFORD! End of argument.
UGA lost to TN & COCKS...2 teams LSU beat...AND didn't even win their own division. So, not only do I think if u dont' win your conference, but if u don't even win your DIVISION..then u need to STFU!! Remember, Tennesse worked UGA good in their game. That game effectively cost them a chance to play for the SEC against LSU.

BODY OF WORK BABY. Body of work. NO team accomplished what LSU did last year. Even before the Ohio St. game, which is why they went ahead of UGA and USC in the 1st place. shite, LSU's thrashing of VT is the primary reason they got in. That was THE most impressive win against another BCS conference team. Hands down.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/17/08 at 6:40 pm to
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Exactly like LSU this year huh?


YES! I gotta agree, LSU's OCS is shite this year. But, it sets up nicely for the young QB's before their game against Aubbies...usually the most physical game of the year. They'll be blood and snot all over the field after that one.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/17/08 at 6:42 pm to
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frick Alabama


i like this
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/17/08 at 7:28 pm to
dude you went nuts, huh, they musta pissed you off because you just went off!
This post was edited on 7/17/08 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 11:08 am to
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With USC winning 55-19, probably. But who would not have been more worthy? With USC playing like they did that night, I seriously doubt AU would have won or even been close. But could AU have won? Sure. Could USC have won 67-18? Sure.


You're talking like a deluded fan. You have talked as if you honestly think the 2003 AU-USC game proves anything about a game at the end of 2004, which is a invalid argument. If you honestly think your team would have even come close to scoring 67, you don't know anything about that Auburn defense. USC wasn't the unstoppable force your fans say they were that year, because if they were, explain that three point win over a terrible Stanford (4-7), or explain that five point win over a bad UCLA (6-6), or how about that eight point win over a mediocre Oregon State team (7-5). Compare that to Auburn, whose only close game was against defending national champions LSU.

It would have been one great game, but if you think Auburn had no chance, you are just being a homer.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 11:25 am to
You're right Ross..

He's another observation: Auburn plays ball- control on offense. Big, physical o-line & 2 ridiculous RB's. They had the muscle to run it right at those USC linebackers...possibly wearing them down by the 4th quarter. Okahoma has been 1-dimensional on offense the last few years. Especially without Adrian Peterson. They spread the field with no TE, and I think that exposes the QB against a big physical DL (like LSU & USC)...get the picture? LSU dominatedd OU, and USC lit them up on both sides of the ball. OU was never in that Orange Bowl. They looked scared. USC wouldn't have been able to intimadate Aubies like that. Auburn was a great team in '04. I think USC would've won, but it would've been a true slug fest. 60pts on Auburn's D my arse...
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 11:33 am to
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They'll be blood and snot all over the field after that one.


Yep.
Posted by Old Times
Member since Jan 2008
771 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 11:37 am to
I know for a fact if Lienert had been hit hard early (like a concussion aka Texas 2005) it would have been all over but the shoutin!
This post was edited on 7/18/08 at 11:38 am
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 11:40 am to
Leinart is a fat marshmallow pussy. He still is one here with the Cards. Always has been. I loved the look on his parents' faces when Vince Young scored that last TD.
Posted by Hitman
Member since Jun 2006
1748 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 11:49 am to
check with Las Vegas sportsbooks and see what they say about who won. They will tell you one team won.The guys who bet on USC did not win a dime.

LINK /
Posted by am4titansandlsu
The South
Member since May 2006
10616 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 12:12 pm to
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You're talking like a deluded fan. You have talked as if you honestly think the 2003 AU-USC game proves anything about a game at the end of 2004, which is a invalid argument


you're 100 percent right. We beat Uk 49-0 in 2006 and then lost to them last year. That right there shows how things can change in 1 year. I think USC would have beaten AU in 2004, but it would have been VERY close and I wouldnt be surprised if AU would have won...

That said, we got a turnover right before AU scored their td to win the game against us in 2004, but the refs missed it and there was no review, so Auburn got what they desereved in the end.

AU still was one of the top 2 teams in the country though.
This post was edited on 7/18/08 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 12:50 pm to
Nice article Hitman. There's no debate who was better in '03....or even NOW!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59135 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 1:17 pm to
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but many here argue the cof camp. game makes for a better conf. champion. i say no, because everyone does not play each other.


CCG does not make for a better champ, but not for that reason.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 5:37 pm to
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It would have been one great game, but if you think Auburn had no chance, you are just being a homer.


I'll be sure and alert the coaches pollsters, AP pollsters, and BCS. Perhaps AU will be retroactively awarded something other than the Golf Digest NC.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/08 at 5:57 pm to
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I'll be sure and alert the coaches pollsters, AP pollsters, and BCS. Perhaps AU will be retroactively awarded something other than the Golf Digest NC


Obviously you are a complete idiot and one of the few people that thinks AU would not have given USC a good game. Go play some playstation now or whatever it is you do.
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