re: OT-: Let's Talk Socialism

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Premise #3 : baconwaffle has no examples where public industries are better

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You asked for one and I gave you it. You are suggesting that I think everything should be nationalized. Not true. I'm simply arguing that privatization of every sector is not the way; some sectors must be (or remain) nationalized. The longterm conclusion of full privatization is the end of nationalism and our country. National survival and private gain are not always aligned.

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The US military has been around for over 220 years. But they dont invent/manufacture their own weapons, aircraft/transport/facilities.

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If you consider the military to be purely hardware and not its people. It's true that private industry contributes amazing weapons to the military; I'm not denying that. But I'm talking about the people who are going to be using those weapons downrange. But on the other hand, don't discount government R&D. Boeing, Lockheed, etc., still license a large number of patents that were developed by DARPA. And back on the other hand, for example, the F-35 is a flying dumpster fire, developed purely by the private sector. If we ever get in a force-on-force conflict, a lot of pilots are going to die in that piece of shite.

Please don't put words in my mouth. Rather than attacking me, let's just debate the merits.