re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

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bullshite.

So you're one of those naive folks who believes when there's an incentive that involves more money for a certain result, that everyone is being honest.

LOL, frickoff.

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And you're one of those that believes ALL docs are going against their Hippocratic oath for money (that they personally never see). It's not an all-or-nothing proposition, but the vast majority are simply not doing this.

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Eat a dick. I have logged into Facebook maybe twice in 3 years, and that was only to sell a trampoline my kids grew out of on some local thing.

Stop being that a-hole that thinks if you say something, it must have come from Fox News or some bullshite meme somewhere.

You lose all credibility when that's your retarded argument.

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You are literally regurgitating about 90% of the Facebook memes and rumors in your posts, but you do you.

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NO, it shouldn't.

There is ZERO WAY of knowing if COVID played a part, but they are saying that definitively it did.

That's the point. They are guessing and assuming something that isn't definitive or fact.

As time goes by and more and more testing and studies are being done, the number of people who had asymptomatic COVID is growing.

How the frick do we know if any of these deaths were asymptomatic and completely unaffected by the virus, but still tested positive for it, and died of other factors?

You don't. So get fricked with your "assumption" method of tallying COVID deaths.

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Medicine, by and large, is guesswork. Simple process of elimination in most cases. And you are wrong on this. The people dying didn't go to the hospital because they were 95, or because they were fat, or because they had liver disease or anything else. The ones presenting to hospitals are coming and being admitted there because of COVID symptoms, typically involving low O2 sats as a result of difficulty breathing. Whatever conditions they had before that are absolutely worsened by the effect of the virus and things they could have lived with for decades with ongoing treatment could kill them in days. This isn't rocket science.

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No, we don't. We "assume" they are COVID-related.

And I've already posted proof of how supposedly flu cases plummeted in NY almost the moment COVID testing rolled out, and flu cases were supposedly at a 100 year high prior to that. How convenient that worked out.

So yes, they are very much related. There are not 80k "additional" deaths above the norm. People who would have previously been cataloged as dying of the flu (or some other ailment or event) are being considered COVID deaths, and anyone with a brain sees this.

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Not how it works. Every one of these people presenting to hospitals are tested for the flu and for COVID. If they are positive for COVID and they die, that's likely what the death will be attributed to. Is there some overlap? I would be surprised if there weren't. But if you test positive for COVID, you test positive for COVID. And all 80k did not ALSO HAVE THE FLU; thus, the vast majority of that number are additional deaths.

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I don't give a shite what your political leanings are. You're a fricking douche for using the "Facebook meme" bullshite as an argument and can go eat a giant bag of dicks.

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Yes, you absolutely do. You're working from an extreme far-right point of view with your arguments (or lack thereof) and seem entirely incapable of examining all angles involved. Your mind is made up. You have no reasonable argument outside of your wild opinions/accusations and this is evidenced by your inability to discuss this without going off the rails with ad hominem attacks.

Good day, sir.