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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:58 am to
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:58 am to
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How accurate is that, really?


Pretty accurate, actually.

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Hospitals and municipalities are getting paid more money from the federal government the more COVID deaths they have, and you think they’re being honest and accurate? Are you really this naive?


Please do more research. No one is falsifying anything at risk of their license. It is ILLEGAL. There's plenty of information out there to dispel this rumor, but I'll give you one. Quit believing every Facebook meme your senile uncle posts.

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A 95 year old dies in a nursing home or hospice, tests positive for COVID, it’s classified a COVID death.

A 400 lb fatass has a heart attack, dies at the hospital an hour later, tests positive, considered a COVID death.

A homeless guy with rotting teeth who shits blood daily and is sleeping in rat feces is found dead in his cardboard box alley home, tests positive, considered COVID death.



Should these NOT count? People are dying from complications of COVID infection. That should be counted. Could 95-year-old grandma have died two weeks earlier or later without COVID? Sure. But if that's not what happened, then you don't ignore the COVID infection and assume it played no part. Based on what we know about the disease and how it attacks the respiratory and vascular systems, all of these are reasonable to be counted. COVID is linked to an increased risk of stroke. People who didn't have heart disease prior to infection have recovered, but WITH heart disease. People don't always die directly from an infection, but from other conditions that infection creates or exacerbates. This is no different. Think about AIDS.

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A lady gets in a serious car accident, suffering brain trauma and other serious injuries, gets multiple surgeries over 2 weeks at the hospital, eventually dies, tests positive, considered COVID death.


This one is a HUGE stretch and there is no evidence that I am aware of that this has EVER happened short of Facebook rumors.

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How many would die without that vaccine and remedies? And how many would die of COVID if we had a vaccine and proven remedies?



None of this we know. What we do know is that an additional 80k people have died from COVID-related complications in 90 days. That's pretty significant and has nothing to do with how many the flu kills on its own.

But for the record, I'm a Trump voter and will be again. Djsdawg has lost it if he thinks Trump has handled this poorly. It hasn't been perfect, but no one's response would have been. Overall, he's done very well.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 8:58 am
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:43 am to
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Pretty accurate, actually.
bullshite.

So you're one of those naive folks who believes when there's an incentive that involves more money for a certain result, that everyone is being honest.

LOL, frickoff.


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Please do more research. No one is falsifying anything at risk of their license. It is ILLEGAL. There's plenty of information out there to dispel this rumor, but I'll give you one. Quit believing every Facebook meme your senile uncle posts.

Eat a dick. I have logged into Facebook maybe twice in 3 years, and that was only to sell a trampoline my kids grew out of on some local thing.

Stop being that a-hole that thinks if you say something, it must have come from Fox News or some bullshite meme somewhere.

You lose all credibility when that's your retarded argument.


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Should these NOT count? People are dying from complications of COVID infection. That should be counted. Could 95-year-old grandma have died two weeks earlier or later without COVID? Sure. But if that's not what happened, then you don't ignore the COVID infection and assume it played no part. Based on what we know about the disease and how it attacks the respiratory and vascular systems, all of these are reasonable to be counted. COVID is linked to an increased risk of stroke. People who didn't have heart disease prior to infection have recovered, but WITH heart disease. People don't always die directly from an infection, but from other conditions that infection creates or exacerbates. This is no different. Think about AIDS.
NO, it shouldn't.

There is ZERO WAY of knowing if COVID played a part, but they are saying that definitively it did.

That's the point. They are guessing and assuming something that isn't definitive or fact.

As time goes by and more and more testing and studies are being done, the number of people who had asymptomatic COVID is growing.

How the frick do we know if any of these deaths were asymptomatic and completely unaffected by the virus, but still tested positive for it, and died of other factors?

You don't. So get fricked with your "assumption" method of tallying COVID deaths.


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What we do know is that an additional 80k people have died from COVID-related complications in 90 days. That's pretty significant and has nothing to do with how many the flu kills on its own.
No, we don't. We "assume" they are COVID-related.

And I've already posted proof of how supposedly flu cases plummeted in NY almost the moment COVID testing rolled out, and flu cases were supposedly at a 100 year high prior to that. How convenient that worked out.

So yes, they are very much related. There are not 80k "additional" deaths above the norm. People who would have previously been cataloged as dying of the flu (or some other ailment or event) are being considered COVID deaths, and anyone with a brain sees this.


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But for the record, I'm a Trump voter and will be again. Djsdawg has lost it if he thinks Trump has handled this poorly. It hasn't been perfect, but no one's response would have been. Overall, he's done very well.
I don't give a shite what your political leanings are. You're a fricking douche for using the "Facebook meme" bullshite as an argument and can go eat a giant bag of dicks.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 10:54 am
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