Started By
Message

re: So what does this offense bring us in 2020?

Posted on 1/21/20 at 5:57 am to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25753 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 5:57 am to
What is head scratching is that this entire post points to your problem.

You equate a throw to Simmins as the same playcall early in the season to the middle of the season to the end of the season. You do know that the playcalls arent titled "throw to simmons".
You do know that changing playcalls may not even change the run:pass ratio at all. Believe it or not, there are dozens of ways that we can run or pass.

You seem to equate a failed RPO pass as the same play as a failed slant as the same play as a failed audible check at the line. As a matter of fact, they all net 0 yards and loss of down. Why cant they all he considered the same?

I'm not going to argue with you. Your kids can predict the plays and tell that every inside run call is the exact same dive play.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:45 am to
quote:

You seem to equate a failed RPO pass as the same play as a failed slant as the same play as a failed audible check at the line.
No, I don’t.

I’ve simply said or inferred that Coley had these issues:

- He called too many inside runs
- He called too many inside runs from the same or similar formation
- He called too many inside runs with the same personnel groupings (blocking vs hands groups)
- He called too many inside runs on the same down and distance
- He called too many inside runs on early downs
- He opened new possessions with WAY too many inside runs, and runs in general
- He called too many runs from a different formation than most of our passes
- He called too many passes from a different formation than most of our runs
- He over-utilized Zamir White for one particular play (middle dive)
- He under-utilized and misused James Cook in general
- He misused Demetrius Robertson/could definitely be getting more quality production out of him and that speed
- He over-utilized Simmons and Landers, especially at key moments when we needed a successful reception
- He not only grossly under-utilized our TE’s in the pass game, but Woerner consistently signaled likely run play, while Wolf consistently signaled likely pass play
- He not only ran too few screens, but the ones he did run were at bad/predictable times (mostly 3rd down), and nearly every one of them was outside, virtually no middle/inside screens
- He didn’t call near enough intermediate and deep passes
- When he did call intermediate and deep passes, way too often he had our worst hands receivers in, and too often as the primary target
- He grossly under-utilized the middle of the field, in-routes, and crossing routes in the passing game, as the vast majority of passes were out-routes, outside the hash-marks, or to/at the sidelines
- He way too often had too many routes run and stop/cut short of the 1st down marker, especially on 3rd downs
- He ran way too many draw plays and screens on 3rd and long instead of multiple routes to or past the 1st down marker where we could at least take a shot at a reception or PI call
- His route tree combinations were very non-intuitive, poor at spacing and creating voids/helping each other spread out or tie up defenders, and bad at forcing safeties to choose halves or move deep in the secondary/fade away from the box

And all of this combined made it easier for defensive coordinators to game plan and play percentages, and for defenses to predict run vs pass and get the jump on plays.

And you know how I know this is correct?

Because Coley is out and a new OC, plus two other new coaches who were similar OC’s, were all just hired with the explicit purpose of fixing everything I just listed so we don’t put up only 28 ppg again with an offense overflowing with elite talent.

Kirby clearly saw these issues. He didn’t just replace Coley, one of the nations top recruiters, because our receivers couldn’t get separation and our OL under-achieved on run blocking.

He saw these issues. I saw these issues. Professional football pundits saw these issues. Armchair youtube nerds saw these issues. Nearly everyone I know and watched games with saw these issues. And thousands of fans who watched our games have vocalized complaints about many of these issues.

But for some crazy reason, you guys are arguing like it was just the fault of Fromm + poor receiver play + poor OL run blocking and completely dismissing the possibility that Coley’s playbook, play design, game plan, and play calling contributed/exacerbated the poor play of Fromm, the receivers, and the OL.

Well good luck with that. But Kirby clearly disagrees with you.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 7:47 am
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 1Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter