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hss anybody else noticed
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:17 pm
Tulsa's bball team is still better than ours?
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:53 pm to MIZ_COU
Tulsa is 113 on KenPom and Mizzou is 57.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:51 pm to wubilli
quit clouding the issue with facts ...
KenPom does a numerical comparison and doesn't have much data right now so it's not much in -> garbage out. By the end of the season it's pretty decent.
Tulsa is 8-3 and beat Vandy. We are 5-4 and lost at home to Charleston (and I'm concerned about Chicago St.)
It's interesting, it's been like 6 years and Tulsa has been better than us most if not all that time. You would think we would have a lot of advantages over Tulsa
KenPom does a numerical comparison and doesn't have much data right now so it's not much in -> garbage out. By the end of the season it's pretty decent.
Tulsa is 8-3 and beat Vandy. We are 5-4 and lost at home to Charleston (and I'm concerned about Chicago St.)
It's interesting, it's been like 6 years and Tulsa has been better than us most if not all that time. You would think we would have a lot of advantages over Tulsa
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:53 pm to MIZ_COU
They’ve had a better coach than us for at least half that time.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:05 pm to the808bass
at least
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:10 pm to MIZ_COU
And yet, Haith has as many NCAAT wins as Kim Anderson during that time
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:26 pm to TigerCruise
Tulsa’s strength of schedule is 345. They haven’t beat anyone with a pulse. Mizzou only has 1 decent win, and has a terrible loss, but the strength of schedule is 131.
Haith does know how to coach offense, although their offense is actually less efficient than Mizzou’s this season.
Haith does know how to coach offense, although their offense is actually less efficient than Mizzou’s this season.
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 6:39 pm to wubilli
Reality is if the 2 teams played, it would probably be a toss up game. People turning stats any way they want is taken into consideration but I don't weight it as heavily as some because those that are constantly quoting them are wrong more than they're right. Ask Bernie. He quotes more stats more than anyone. Bottom line is neither team is very good.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:09 pm to wubilli
And Mizzou would lose by double digits.
I'm probably way off but you remind me of the guy who has never played a sport in his life and to make up for it you dove into statistical analysis and then tried to push how that tells you everything you need to know. Nothing wrong with that. The world needs all kinds.
I'm probably way off but you remind me of the guy who has never played a sport in his life and to make up for it you dove into statistical analysis and then tried to push how that tells you everything you need to know. Nothing wrong with that. The world needs all kinds.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:21 pm to reedus23
I actually played D1 hoops. I dove into statistics as a way to show me the why. If I watch a game and come away with impressions I should be able to look at the analytics and come to the same conclusion. The best college and pro teams go deep into analytics.
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:11 pm to wubilli
Mizzou isn't even the best team in it's own state. SLU is and has been for awhile now.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:13 pm to blueprint_one
Northwest is probably the best team in the state right now. If Mizzou would quit throwing up bricks on its open jumpers then Mizzou would overtake them both.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:20 pm to wubilli
Told ya I would be way off. Of course I want to ask where but I won't. Internet is full of crazies. I'll listen to analytics but just drives me crazy the guys (like Bernie) who that's all they rely on. Just wanna yell at him to try watching a game instead of reading numbers.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:29 pm to wubilli
If SLU could make free throws they would have beat Auburn on the road today. I think they are borderline top 25 and a tourney team.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:30 pm to reedus23
I do both. Watch the game and come away with my ideas on the game. Then I go to stat sites like synergy to see if I missed anything.
Look at Mizzou for example, nearly 25% of the shots taken are considered open jumpers. Normally you see teams make around 50% of those. Mizzou is under 30% on those shots. Some if that is bad luck and some is having the wrong people taking the shots.
Look at Mizzou for example, nearly 25% of the shots taken are considered open jumpers. Normally you see teams make around 50% of those. Mizzou is under 30% on those shots. Some if that is bad luck and some is having the wrong people taking the shots.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 9:49 pm to wubilli
quote:this is starting to seem like a Counzo thing
Mizzou would quit throwing up bricks on its open jumpers
Posted on 12/14/19 at 9:56 pm to MIZ_COU
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this is starting to seem like a Counzo thing
I don’t know. Mizzou shot the ball well the last 2 seasons.
2018 Mizzou shot 38% from 3 which was ranked 39th in college
2019 Mizzou shot 36% which was 81st. The team was top 30 before Mark Smith got hurt.
Now this season the team is shooting 25% which is 346.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 3:25 pm to seaniec04
Blows my mind how horrendous they are from the line.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 3:41 pm to wubilli
Painful as it is I checked in on the game. They (still) have no offensive flow. No rhythm. Looks like they are trying their hardest to do some f'd up Counzo thing on offense so they don't get yelled at. I'm surprised anything goes down. 38 and 36% is not good at all. They are 212 in offensive efficiency. In 2018 they were 219. How long we gonna pretend what is happening is not happening? That is a very Mizzou fan thing
this is difficult to watch (and we are up by 14). I'm out.
from the looks of the stands so is everybody else
this is difficult to watch (and we are up by 14). I'm out.
from the looks of the stands so is everybody else
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 3:46 pm
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