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Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:29 pm to
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Systems were down at work so I threw the game back on...
Now for most of you Fromm haters, you can remember the 23 incompletions like it's your job. But I re-watched the game...looking for these incompletions and the what caused them.

And I came away not as mad as I was Saturday, actually. Watching the game, not in a panic wondering if we're going to score to take the lead back, watching the game just to see where things went wrong, you come away with a different outlook. Fromm made some damn good throws. He had a few misses but to think he only completed 54%?

He had some throw aways, the obvious interceptions which I think 1 of only being his fault--he got too cute and should have just put it in the 2nd row. But there were some drops and some shots taken that we just didn't connect on--and that's what we remember.

He didn't have much room on the early shots with Pickens and Robertson; just no space at all and the DBs were playing physical. Pickens has to do a better job of pressing the corners and not pinning himself to the sideline.

He threw a bullet to Swift as he released up the field but he just couldn't corral it. Threw one into double coverage trying to force one to Pickens out of the endzone. The overthrow to Simmons should have been PI; defender got beat and literally just cut him off. Coley designed a nice play to get Blaylock deep on a wheel route but his feet got caught up and Fromm was a bit off. So no connections on our deep trys, but hey, we wanted them to take shots right? The misses From had were key and part of the executional issues. Throwing behind Zeus out of the backfield and same with Swift on the last drive in regulation which he could have picked up a chunk of yards.

Execution...it's not just coach speak. Watching the game, you could see drives get stalled because we would get drives going, solid first down, and then 2 bad plays back to back. Drive killer. I think it was 3rd quarter (?) Mays gets blown up, Zeus tackled for no gain. Next play Mays runs up field and doesn't touch anyone and the defenders fill in behind him and stop the run. It was like he was a concussed Billy Bob and not aware of the situation. Woerner's blocking on the edge wasn't very impressive. And just sustained blocks all together from everyone was lacking and I think that is a big part of why we don't have explosive plays. Too many guys standing around or not holding blocks. Case in point, some of the early runs from Swift and Zeus, 1 more second and they're gone. Or watch the Swift run where Cager blocks down on the safety and bypasses the corner that tackles Swift.

I think with the musical chairs on the line, mainly due to injuries, it's messed with the cohesiveness. You can tell especially with the interior lineman; they chip a guy thinking someone is there to help but that guy ends up being released. I don't know how they could have possibly worked on all of the combos we saw on the line and it is affecting them. Hopefully we can get healthy soon.

To Kirby's point, we were efficient...until we weren't. Our drives came to such crashing haults with the turnovers and missed assignments it leads you to believe that we regressed. We have to capitalize on our drives because if we're going to eat up that much clock, our opportunities will be limited. Our D won't always be lights out and the O will have to put the game on their back. I hope that this L will get the team rallied together knowing there is no more room for error; get them to focus on the details; and play as a team.

We weren't as bad as I thought we were Saturday, from players to coaches, but they have to get it together. I believe they will--hopefully they won't prove me wrong.

Thanks for letting me rant--go dawgs!



Yup. The loss falls on the offense as a whole.
OL would double team a guy and work their way up to the linebackers... but both OL just let the guy go and he makes the stop at the LOS.
Trey Hill getting knocked back 4 yards on an outside run forcing a play to go not where it is blocked. The fumbled exchange.

WR drops, tips to the defender, and not running routes properly.

RBs missing weak spots in the defense when space presents itself.

Fromm throwing late or behind the RBs as they cross in front (this is the most egregious as this should be a high percentage throw). Fromm under throwing corner routes instead of throwing the receiver open.
Fromm over throwing almost everything deep.

It only takes 1 player mistake to blow up a play. All of these player mistakes fall on the coaches, though. If we can't execute at home, how do we expect the offense to go on the road (and when the defense doesn't get 5 gimme false starts).

Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21613 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:43 pm to
Were you the one saying Trey Hill was the weak link on the OL around the time of the Vandy game? If so, you were right. Dude has been very underwhelming at center.

I think we're missing Gaillard every bit as much as the talent at receiver from last year.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3943 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:04 am to
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The fumbled exchange.


I respectfully disagree here. The fumbled exchange is on Fromm, not Hill.

If you watch the play again, Hill is pulling right (along with the rest of the OL) and Fromm pulls out left from under center. That is what caused the bad exchange.

But don't take my word for it. The game analyst, Dan Orlovsky (a former NFL starting QB), pointed this out exactly as I related it above. He put the blame on Fromm.
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