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re: Comparing Alabama offensive coordinators, Sark, Locks, Dabol, Kiffin
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:02 pm to Tider95
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:02 pm to Tider95
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Thank you for not reading the article. I appreciate your old-school feelings based input.
You didn't answer the question.
You said: "run success has no correlation with success of play action"
And my question is why does a quarterback even fake a handoff on a play action pass if the run game has no impact (what you are calling correlation) to the passing game?
What you want is for that split second for the linebackers and defensive secondary to play run, which gives your receivers that split second to make a move on a route that will get behind or evade those linebackers and defensive backs.
After all, a faked hand off, if not serving a purpose, is just one more thing that might cause a fumble. If there is no decent running game, or more to your point, if there is no "correlation" to the run game and the passing game, then it's pointless to fake that hand off and take a chance on the fumble, not to mention that the quarterback takes his eyes off the receivers running their route.
So you didn't answer the question.
Why fake the handoff if the running game has no impact on the passing game?
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 12:12 pm
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:24 pm to John Milner
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What you want is for that split second for the linebackers and defensive secondary to play run, which gives your receivers that split second to make a move on a route that will get behind or evade those linebackers and defensive backs.
I think you hit on the entire concept of offensive football. That split second. When defenses are off-balance, or on their heels it's because they are a step behind and a step behind will get you beat.
Our first TD Saturday, the SC safety (#21) is playing about 10 yards back and when the ball is snapped he flies up to the OLBer spot in the box and bites on the Najee Harris fake in the backfield. Tua rolls a little to his left and Najee keeps running on a wheel route. The safety is still watching the ball and totally forgets about Najee in the pass pattern and he ran right by him. Najee wasn't touched until he got to the endzone. All that required enough play-action to get the safety to bite. I mean, after all it was his man.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 4:18 pm to John Milner
So not to jump in on your discussion let me pose this:
A fake is a fake regardless if the opposition believes it. Would a strong run game make it more believable or not? Or does it freeze everyone for a flash? Maybe both, maybe one. However, I think everyone or most everyone is going to freeze and wait to see. Even Clemson, if you watch their games do it, that’s almost natural. So to answer the question, a fake is a fake and still has the effect give or take experience on the defense, success in the game etc. just my .10 cents.
A fake is a fake regardless if the opposition believes it. Would a strong run game make it more believable or not? Or does it freeze everyone for a flash? Maybe both, maybe one. However, I think everyone or most everyone is going to freeze and wait to see. Even Clemson, if you watch their games do it, that’s almost natural. So to answer the question, a fake is a fake and still has the effect give or take experience on the defense, success in the game etc. just my .10 cents.
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