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We are in deep trouble for 2020
Posted on 8/9/19 at 8:49 am
Posted on 8/9/19 at 8:49 am
Depth wise. No one seems to want to talk about this yet, but we are in some serious trouble.
Thats why the 2019 season is so important. Taking a step back would be a huge negative for recruiting (and we're still behind as far as thats concerned in a big way).
Depth especially on defense will be a HUGE issue. DL, Linebackers, and secondary depth will all be VERY questionable in 2020.
Thats why the 2019 season is so important. Taking a step back would be a huge negative for recruiting (and we're still behind as far as thats concerned in a big way).
Depth especially on defense will be a HUGE issue. DL, Linebackers, and secondary depth will all be VERY questionable in 2020.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:21 am to boXerrumble
Box did you stay up all night watching a scarey movie?
First off, we have a LOT of juniors this year and although Marco & CJ might leave early, we are building depth there at CB.
DL? A lot of jrs
LB? We return a lot of talent except for Reese
Whats the issue? Snap out of it and look at our full roster dude.
First off, we have a LOT of juniors this year and although Marco & CJ might leave early, we are building depth there at CB.
DL? A lot of jrs
LB? We return a lot of talent except for Reese
Whats the issue? Snap out of it and look at our full roster dude.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 9:51 am to boXerrumble
Oline will all be back but Buchanan unless someone really shines and leaves early
Frank or Jones will be the QB. Neither is a bad thing
Grimes and Toney are key at WR. If they stay, we still have a very dangerous group
So Offense will be perfectly fine
Defense is a bit worrisome in the secondary for sure.
Wilson staying would be huge. Stewart may have the talent to leave early, but hopefully he won't.
I don't see as many issues as I thought there would be with all the issues we had. 2021 could be scary if this class doesn't do a bang up job of replacing some guys we lost though
Posted on 8/10/19 at 12:24 pm to boXerrumble
It's not that bad.
1. The OL will be deep and experienced.
Forsythe rSR - returning starter
Moore rJR
Heggie rSR - returning starter
Bleich rSO - returning starter
McDowell rSO - returning backup
Gouraige rSO - returning backup
Delance rSR - returning starter
Eguakun SO - returning back up
Tarquin SO - returning back up
Harrod rFR
White SO - returning back up
Simonds rFR
Wilson rFR
Plus at least 4-5 new OL recruits. This will be a position with a lot of experience and a lot of good quality depth.
2. Unless their are freak departures, UF will have:
Pierce JR
Davis rJR
Clement rSO
Wright rFR
plus whomever else UF brings in. Pierce and Davis should be dynamic.
3. UF should have an experienced QB in Felipe Franks. If not, UF will still have:
Jones rSO
Trask rSR
Anthony Richardson FR
4. The defense should still have a lot of quality players with experience in the front 7:
DT
Campbell SR
Slaton SR
Conliffe SR
Humphries SO or rFR
WDE
Moon rSR
Chatfield rSO
Diabate SO
Sumerall rFR
DE
Carter rJR
Bogle rSO
Cox rSO - just transferred from UGA
LB
Miller rJR
Burney JR
Houston rJR
Reese (other) rSO
Brunson rJR
Pierre rFR
Hopper rFR
And UF will be adding 2 talented LBs, and 5-6 DL to this rotation. So the depth will be young, but the starters will be juniors and seniors. Nothing shaky about these players, unless 2019 tells us different.
The areas of concern are DB and WR.
WR:
Grimes SR - may go pro
Wells rSR
Toney SR
Copeland rSO
Whittemore rFR
Marks rFR
Henderson rFR
Weston - rFR
Leonard Manuel 4*
Jaquaivan Fraziars 4*
Jeremiah Johnson 3*
But UF will also have strong pass catching options at TE to supplement that younger group:
Pitts - JR - may even play WR fulltime by then
Gamble rSO
Krull rSR
Lang rSO
Zipperer rFR
UF is bringing in at least 3 more WR including highly touted guys like Manuel and Frazion.
The only other position with serious questions would be defensive back:
CB
Mcwiliams rSR
Wilson rJR - if he doesn't go pro
Dean JR
Hill SO
Kimrough SO
Elam SO
S
Stewart SR
Huggins JR
Stiner SR
Davis SR
Lenton rSR
Plus Kelvin Joseph will probably transfer to UF, Jahari Rogers and Avery Helm are two 4* corners already committed, and UF has 2 new safety recruits coming in as well. That might be the most experienced group of safeties UF has ever had at one time.
So yeah, UF has some work to do on the recruiting trail. Especially if Joseph doesn't transfer.
But it is not all doom and gloom here.
1. The OL will be deep and experienced.
Forsythe rSR - returning starter
Moore rJR
Heggie rSR - returning starter
Bleich rSO - returning starter
McDowell rSO - returning backup
Gouraige rSO - returning backup
Delance rSR - returning starter
Eguakun SO - returning back up
Tarquin SO - returning back up
Harrod rFR
White SO - returning back up
Simonds rFR
Wilson rFR
Plus at least 4-5 new OL recruits. This will be a position with a lot of experience and a lot of good quality depth.
2. Unless their are freak departures, UF will have:
Pierce JR
Davis rJR
Clement rSO
Wright rFR
plus whomever else UF brings in. Pierce and Davis should be dynamic.
3. UF should have an experienced QB in Felipe Franks. If not, UF will still have:
Jones rSO
Trask rSR
Anthony Richardson FR
4. The defense should still have a lot of quality players with experience in the front 7:
DT
Campbell SR
Slaton SR
Conliffe SR
Humphries SO or rFR
WDE
Moon rSR
Chatfield rSO
Diabate SO
Sumerall rFR
DE
Carter rJR
Bogle rSO
Cox rSO - just transferred from UGA
LB
Miller rJR
Burney JR
Houston rJR
Reese (other) rSO
Brunson rJR
Pierre rFR
Hopper rFR
And UF will be adding 2 talented LBs, and 5-6 DL to this rotation. So the depth will be young, but the starters will be juniors and seniors. Nothing shaky about these players, unless 2019 tells us different.
The areas of concern are DB and WR.
WR:
Grimes SR - may go pro
Wells rSR
Toney SR
Copeland rSO
Whittemore rFR
Marks rFR
Henderson rFR
Weston - rFR
Leonard Manuel 4*
Jaquaivan Fraziars 4*
Jeremiah Johnson 3*
But UF will also have strong pass catching options at TE to supplement that younger group:
Pitts - JR - may even play WR fulltime by then
Gamble rSO
Krull rSR
Lang rSO
Zipperer rFR
UF is bringing in at least 3 more WR including highly touted guys like Manuel and Frazion.
The only other position with serious questions would be defensive back:
CB
Mcwiliams rSR
Wilson rJR - if he doesn't go pro
Dean JR
Hill SO
Kimrough SO
Elam SO
S
Stewart SR
Huggins JR
Stiner SR
Davis SR
Lenton rSR
Plus Kelvin Joseph will probably transfer to UF, Jahari Rogers and Avery Helm are two 4* corners already committed, and UF has 2 new safety recruits coming in as well. That might be the most experienced group of safeties UF has ever had at one time.
So yeah, UF has some work to do on the recruiting trail. Especially if Joseph doesn't transfer.
But it is not all doom and gloom here.
This post was edited on 8/10/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 8/10/19 at 12:53 pm to slayerxing
Don't forget our schedule is outrageously easy.
September 5 – Eastern Washington (Gainesville, Fla.)
September 12 – Kentucky (Gainesville, Fla.)
September 19 – Southern Alabama (Gainesville, Fla.)
September 26 – Tennessee (Knoxville, Tenn.)
October 3 – South Carolina (Gainesville, Fla.)
October 10 – LSU (Gainesville, Fla.)
October 17 – Ole Miss (Oxford, Miss.)
October 24 – BYE
October 31 – vs. Georgia (Jacksonville, Fla.)
November 7 – Vanderbilt (Nashville, Tenn.)
November 14 – Missouri (Gainesville, Fla.)
November 21 – New Mexico State (Gainesville, Fla.)
November 28 – Florida State (Tallahassee, Fla.)
December 5 – SEC Championship (Atlanta, Ga.)
If there were ever a time to reload and have time to do it, it'd be that year.
If we are changing our QB to Emory Jones, he will have at least a cupcake to start going through the motions. We will be absolutely fine.
September 5 – Eastern Washington (Gainesville, Fla.)
September 12 – Kentucky (Gainesville, Fla.)
September 19 – Southern Alabama (Gainesville, Fla.)
September 26 – Tennessee (Knoxville, Tenn.)
October 3 – South Carolina (Gainesville, Fla.)
October 10 – LSU (Gainesville, Fla.)
October 17 – Ole Miss (Oxford, Miss.)
October 24 – BYE
October 31 – vs. Georgia (Jacksonville, Fla.)
November 7 – Vanderbilt (Nashville, Tenn.)
November 14 – Missouri (Gainesville, Fla.)
November 21 – New Mexico State (Gainesville, Fla.)
November 28 – Florida State (Tallahassee, Fla.)
December 5 – SEC Championship (Atlanta, Ga.)
If there were ever a time to reload and have time to do it, it'd be that year.
If we are changing our QB to Emory Jones, he will have at least a cupcake to start going through the motions. We will be absolutely fine.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 1:05 pm to slayerxing
Im hoping Franks stays for senior year. He has a chance to win individual awards and with a great 2019 season he will be mentioned a lot by media in positive terms. Everyone on this board knows I am a huge fan of the kid. Military family who hasn't been in trouble and has been coachable.
6'6" 245-250 is a tall drink of water and has the ability to become much better. He is never going to throw the ball 45 times in Mullen's offense...unless God forbid we are way behind in the score.
If he returns for 2020, then we will be in high cotton for that year also.
Memo to Box: stop hitting the panic button, we aren't "in deep trouble" thanks. We will be fine with or without Franks. Jones would have experienced OL to help him and he should be ready....and as Straws stated, the schedule is easy pleesy to get Jones's feet wet.
6'6" 245-250 is a tall drink of water and has the ability to become much better. He is never going to throw the ball 45 times in Mullen's offense...unless God forbid we are way behind in the score.
If he returns for 2020, then we will be in high cotton for that year also.
Memo to Box: stop hitting the panic button, we aren't "in deep trouble" thanks. We will be fine with or without Franks. Jones would have experienced OL to help him and he should be ready....and as Straws stated, the schedule is easy pleesy to get Jones's feet wet.
This post was edited on 8/10/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:28 am to boXerrumble
Things can change in a hurry, for the better. If we have a good year a we “flip” some recruits. Also many teams that haven’t gone down the JUCO route are now finding a lot of good talent there. Graduate transfers can patch holes. We’re FLORIDA
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 7:30 am
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:32 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Malik Davis and Pierce will still be here next year
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:15 pm to Gatorbait2008
Don't forget Nay'quan Wright.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:41 pm to Gatorbait2008
Are you expecting them to be on par with Perine and Scarlet? Both are very under rated imo.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 3:10 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Not that the question was directed at me but: Pierce is very, very good. Malik Davis was also carrying for almost 7 yards a pop as a true freshman in seven games until he was hurt. Even last year he was almost averaging 5 yards a carry and he still wasn't 100%.
They're very good. Wright may be more or less, but I've only heard of good things from camp (he scored several touchdowns his first day of fall scrimmage).
They're very good. Wright may be more or less, but I've only heard of good things from camp (he scored several touchdowns his first day of fall scrimmage).
Posted on 8/11/19 at 4:59 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I just looked at Davis' carries. He looked pretty legit against some good competition his freshman year. What happened to him last year?
Posted on 8/11/19 at 5:07 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Torn ACL if I'm not mistaken. He missed a lot of time and hasn't been 100% for a while. I think this is going to be his first year back 100%.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 6:07 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Dang, two season ending injuries is tough to overcome. Should be good to go for next year though, especially with ACL's.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 6:39 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Oh no, he just had one. He tore it in 2017 mid-season and then it sidelined him until pretty much the middle of last season -- he just hadn't been 100% most of the year.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:22 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Are you sure? It looks like he played the first three games last year and then was out for the season.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:03 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
He just tore it once, not twice.
He just didn't play much because he obviously wasn't comfortable, and UF had Scarlett, Perine, and Pierce to carry the load.
He just didn't play much because he obviously wasn't comfortable, and UF had Scarlett, Perine, and Pierce to carry the load.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:15 pm to slayerxing
Davis is top shelf and Pierce can be a rocket with power in the open...he has already proven his worth. He is a 75 yd TD run waiting to happen. Our problem is getting enough touches for guys like Pierce and Toney (who had a ridiculous high average of yds per carry...even though he is a WR/Wildcat 10.9 yds per touch on the ground. a lot of which were sweep plays.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 4:38 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Davis was incredibly good his freshman year. Just injury prone. He could see a lot of action if back to what he was doing in 2017.
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