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re: I miss poll era football.

Posted on 7/27/19 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 2:00 pm to
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I think you just made my point for me.


I don't think I did.

My point is, the number in front of the team is kind of useless in a subjective system no matter what system you use. I mean...did Texas really deserve to be ranked #1 in 1977 going into the post-season? They were undefeated, sure, but they got the breaks blown off of them by #5 Notre Dame in the Cotton Bowl (the final score was 38-10). Not only that, #2 Oklahoma was blown out by #6 Arkansas that same day, 31-6.

Now...according to you, #1 Texas and #2 Oklahoma should have played each other in a re-match - that is if we're going by the BCS standard. But if we go by the CFP standard, the eventual national champions of 1977 don't even make the final field. The four teams would have been #1 Texas vs. #4 Michigan (a team that lost in the Rose Bowl to #13 Washington) and #2 Oklahoma vs. #3 Alabama. Of the four teams that make it in this hypothetical, Alabama was the only team that actually won its bowl game in reality. Notre Dame, the national champion of 1977, is on the outside looking in at #5.

But who cares? It's #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs. #3, with the winners advancing to the national championship game.

In the end, my point is this: until college football is reshaped dramatically and fewer teams are competing at the FBS level, you are never going to be able to produce a true champion, no matter the format.

This post was edited on 7/27/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9845 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 3:12 pm to
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Now...according to you, #1 Texas and #2 Oklahoma should have played each other in a re-match - that is if we're going by the BCS standard. But if we go by the CFP standard, the eventual national champions of 1977 don't even make the final field. The four teams would have been #1 Texas vs. #4 Michigan (a team that lost in the Rose Bowl to #13 Washington) and #2 Oklahoma vs. #3 Alabama. Of the four teams that make it in this hypothetical, Alabama was the only team that actually won its bowl game in reality. Notre Dame, the national champion of 1977, is on the outside looking in at #5. But who cares? It's #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs. #3, with the winners advancing to the national championship game.


What you’re really arguing is that national championships shouldn’t even exist, because if there’s any suggestivity occurring in the process at any point, then the whole thing is irrelevant. Unless you want to install a massive playoff format that lets every conference champ in and do away with ranking systems period.

You and I both know that’s never going to happen.

So working with what we have, is it better to try to set up a championship game or to play a bunch of randomly assigned football games in random locations in January and shrug our collective shoulders and let four or five teams “claim” national championships every year?

I mean, hell, you could argue that the Patriots might have lost to the Saints on a neutral field last year. Does that mean that their championship is illegitimate?
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