If I were being truly ingratiating, I would be flattering you about your feelings about the show. If I were completely indifferent, I wouldn't have commented, or found the bellyaching to be amusing. I've been neither ingratiating nor indifferent in this entire exchange. All I've said is that I enjoyed the show and find the ubiquitous internet panning to be over the top.

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Intellectual honesty and all that. You can certainly point out someone being hypocritical and not be 'bothered'.

Being completely aboveboard about my feelings regarding the show and my complete lack of motivation to change anyone else's feelings about it is intellectually dishonest and hypocritical?

I'm not ambivalent about the TV show. Obviously I cared enough to comment on it. Just because I don't personally find it worthy of the emotional capital others choose to spend upon it is hardly hypocrisy on my part. It's really do different from my wife looking at me funny for getting emotional after the Spurs won their last championship or something. It's mystifying/amusing to her because she didn't invest as much in it emotionally or otherwise as I did. Her observing as much, or holding that opinion isn't hypocrisy or intellectual dishonesty on her part. She enjoys the game as much as I do, but isn't as invested in as many aspects, perhaps. Like, even after a Spurs win, I can probably be heard grousing about our shitty defense, or a particular player's lack of progression, etc. She doesn't have to turn her brain off or something to enjoy it in spite of what I deem glaring holes in the team's performance, it just doesn't affect her enjoyment of the event.

Sorry for all the basketball analogies. I say all that to say, I do understand where you're coming from. If I were as invested as you and others in the aspects of the show y'all found to be egregiously lacking, perhaps I'd feel the same way. Or perhaps not. Who knows--depends on how everyone's wired, I guess. Like I said before, I'm truly sorry the show didn't live up to your expectations. Clearly, this diminished the experience for you, and as someone who truly enjoyed GoT from start to finish, it's unfortunate you felt you were robbed of similar enjoyment. That just sucks. No way around that, since the show is over.

Hopefully the next big TV spectacle outstrips your highest expectations. Perhaps it'll fail mine, and then we'll be on opposite sides of the same discussion. Who knows

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Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom

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Posted on 5/22/19 at 4:15 pm to TbirdSpur2010

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Being completely aboveboard about my feelings regarding the show and my complete lack of motivation to change anyone else's feelings about it is intellectually dishonest and hypocritical

I meant ingratiating to our peanut gallery, not specifically to me.

I don't think you were exclusively appealing to anyone maliciously, but I think you were quickly trying to reach the middle ground of "I respect your opinion and I'm just this humble dude respecting everyone even if they're being ridiculous". That part, specifically, is what I'm referring/referred to. To me, that's potshotting and trying to remain noncommittal. I'm only saying hypocrite about this, it has nothing to do with the show.

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Like, even after a Spurs win, I can probably be heard grousing about our shitty defense, or a particular player's lack of progression, etc. She doesn't have to turn her brain off or something to enjoy it in spite of what I deem glaring holes in the team's performance, it just doesn't affect her enjoyment of the event.

The problem is that the analogy falls flat, and that...you're proving my point. You're not ridiculous for enjoying Basketball at a more in-depth level.

The bigger problem is that this isn't like a bad defense, possession or coaching. This is like the game is rigged. People can enjoy the spectacle of a rigged game, but if you're paying attention there is fundamentally no way to overlook it and enjoy the game.

The more attention someone puts to the show, the more likely they were to not enjoy the final season. It's objective fact. I didn't mean an Avengers' style watcher as an insult and I explained to teamjackson that it had nothing to do with being someone who is worse for liking it; I meant that you weren't paying attention to things like Arya saying she knows a killer when she sees one while simultaneously standing on the corpses and rubble of people the Queen just killed.

You either look at that and roll your eyes, or you don't even notice because you're there for a different reason.

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