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Alternative approach to CFP Selection/Seeding

Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:51 pm
Have any of you ever seen this?
The Marble Game
The rules of the Marble Game are simple:
Each team starts with a predetermined amount of marbles.
If a team wins a home game, they take 20% of the loser’s marbles.
If a team wins a road game, they take 25% of the loser’s marbles.
Neutral site games are treated as home wins for the victor (20% marble transfer).
At the end of the season, the four teams with the most marbles are invited to participate in the CFP.

Thoughts from tRant?
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3295 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:53 pm to
You must have lost your marbles posting a dumbass idea like this
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
13027 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

dumbass idea


As opposed to the current Selection Committee and their ever-evolving, yet totally objective "criteria"?

I just found it interesting.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

You must have lost your marbles posting a dumbass idea like this




Just as valid as the "eye test" for the College Football Invitational Tournament.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3295 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

As opposed to the current Selection Committee and their ever-evolving, yet totally objective "criteria"?

I just found it interesting.


This process wouldn't have had 12-1 SEC Champ Georgia in the playoff last year. It fails.

Imo best option for a four team playoff is just bring back the BCS and use the AP and Coaches poll for the human polls.

8 team playoff as a 5-2-1* model is ideal. 5 conf champs, 2 at larges (rewarding deeper conferences and teams who played a strong SOS) and 1 G5 spot to the highest ranked undefeated team. If no undefeated G5, then this becomes another at large spot.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13241 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:04 pm to
So winning an opening game @UL Monroe would be more beneficial than winning an opening neutral site game against Clemson
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13241 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

8 team playoff as a 5-2-1* model is ideal.


I looked into this and found something like Ohio State would've made it 10 or 11 of the past 14 years.

I wouldn't call that ideal.
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
7433 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Thoughts from tRant?



should be ...

quote:

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Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:09 pm to
this committee clearly favors/prefers the SEC

So I'm fine with them being the way of selecting the 4.

Although so did the BCS, so I really have no gripes with either.

My team just has to perform on the field.

Posted by Sid E Walker
BackdoorU ©
Member since Nov 2013
25584 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:12 pm to
No changes needed to the current process. Everything is working out just fine.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3295 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

I looked into this and found something like Ohio State would've made it 10 or 11 of the past 14 years.



Alabama would have made it every year since year 2 of Saban.

Boise State would have made it in 06 and 08. TCU in 2010. UCF last year.

Gives the giants and the little guys a shot.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:15 pm to
Playoffs arent right for CFB anyway, but they certainly dont make any sense when you have a bunch of humans picking the teams.

Needs to be determined on the field. Get rid of the current conference setups. Have rotating divisions based on the previous years. 8, 8 team divisions. Champions of those divisions make the playoffs.

Or, if all that sounds stupid...and it does. frick the playoffs and go back to the BCS.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5344 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:17 pm to
I think it's interesting ..

What it shows though , is how some teams are unwilling to go on the road OOC.

Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3295 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Or, if all that sounds stupid...and it does. frick the playoffs and go back to the BCS.



How are 2 teams better than 4? The teams that would have been in the BCS title game are in the CFP anyway, and the controversies we have for no.4 are not as crazy as the controversies for 1 and 2 in 03, 04, 06, 07, 08, etc where major 1-loss conference champions that were sometimes no.1 in the AP poll were getting left out. The BCS was a nightmare in those years.

If your suggestion is to use the BCS to decide the top 4 teams, then I agree.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:21 pm to
College football has been about bowl games for its entire existence leading up to the playoff which has rendered them completely meaningless.

CFB is not structured correctly for playoffs, and they wont ever be without massive fundamental changes. The entire premise is nonsensical.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31862 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:24 pm to
they should just pick the 4 teams that have the hottest cheerleaders
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3295 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

College football has been about bowl games for its entire existence leading up to the playoff which has rendered them completely meaningless.


It also has been about disputed national championships, paper champions, and controversy. That is bad. I still think the bowls have meaning for the majority of college football programs who are not CFP or bust every single year. And even for big time programs, the prestigious bowls like the Rose Bowl still holds a lot of meaning.

If anything has diminished the importance of bowl games, you can argue that it is crappy lower tier bowls that allow 6-6 teams to play a postseason game.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

No changes needed to the current process. Everything is working out just fine.


Who didn’t know that.

It’s a silly system but it does eliminate the mulligan/bye advantage that Bama gets.

What’s up Sid?
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20564 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:27 pm to
Its literally like someone said "We have to come up with a way that sounds scientific and keeps Alabama out of the playoff."

I've always been a proponent of the eight team playoff.

Power 5 conference champions + Top 3 non-champions.

If a G6 team is ranked in the top 10, then they get a bid and you take the Top 2 non-champions.

First round games on campus. Only conference champions can host.

Semifinals and title game rotating as now.

2017 Power 5 Champions
1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Ohio State
5. USC

Three at large teams
6. Alabama
7. Wisconsin
8. Auburn

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