re: 6 SEC coaches lost to Ed Orgeron in 2017

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On the Rant you will find a thread revising the history of those highly rated classes. Which leads me to ask, did Orgeron help shape a loaded roster or was the cupboard left bare for him?

Both of these things are being argued separately by some people with no acknowledgement that the reality is either that he help shape the bare cupboard he took over or that he severely underachieved with a loaded roster.

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I believe the truth is in the middle. Les recruited very well for most of his time at LSU; however, in his last couple of recruiting classes there were needs that weren't addressed, in particular the DL. Now, that's not to say there wasn't talent that remained, there was, a lot of it. However, that talent was not balanced throughout the positional units. Orgeron deserves some of the blame as well. He did not sign a RB in the 2017 class and only 1 in the 2018 class. he put all his eggs in the Surtain basket, and when he flipped, we lost out on other CB recruits, so now we have depth issues at that position. Attrition is nothing new at LSU. Whether it be an inordinate number of juniors declaring early or players transferring for playing time, both Les and Orgeron have had to deal with this. And hionestly, while it may happen more at LSU, it's happening more frequently than ever before across the country.

Do I think Orgeron under achieved last year? No. I think LSU finished about where they were expected to finish. They weren't expected to beat Auburn and weren't expected to lose to Troy, but their overall record was about where most expected before the season.

Do I think Miles under achieved while at LSU. Outside of the last 2 years, he did a fantastic job. He just had the misfortune of coaching in the same division as Nick Saban. But he was as successful as any coach not named Nick Saban in this conference.

I didn't like the Orgeron hire, but I, and the rest of LSU fans, have to live with it. The constant bitching of the fan base has become simply juvenile at this point. It is not going to do the program any good for a fan base to act like many have.