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re: Patrick Surtain Jr. - LSU/Bama
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:47 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:47 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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prospects recognize LSU as dbu whether you like it or not. That's just a fact.
This is true. Idk why Bama fans dispute this so much lol. They get a natty what seems like every other year, best coach of all time, beat us 7 years in a row.. you can admit that LSU has better DB's lol.
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:50 pm to TideWarrior
Players will have a chance to compete for titles at LSU as well. So again, what's your point? A national title in college doesn't make a player better suited for the nfl individually, that's just retarded. LSU has the best db coach in the nation in Raymond, and it shows in how many of our players not only get drafted, but are very successful in the NFL from day 1. Yalls mindset is the one that's fricked up, not mine. You think Bama should just get every player it wants just because you're bama. Well, LSU offers the same route to the league that bama does and probably more as a db, and if you think otherwise you're kidding yourself. See you Wednesday.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:52 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
You can yourself whatever you want really does not matter. Just like calling yourself a championship contender. Until you win one it really does not matter.
I was responding to your general statement about all your players in the NFL not the DBs which I will agree always seem to do well and yes everyone knows Raymond is one of the best in the business.
I was responding to your general statement about all your players in the NFL not the DBs which I will agree always seem to do well and yes everyone knows Raymond is one of the best in the business.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:53 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
I guess bama and LSU should only recruit hs players that have won state championship's because that's what makes them the better player right? What dumb logic.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:56 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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A national title in college doesn't make a player better suited for the nfl individually, that's just retarded.
I never said that but you seem to ignore the fact that when you ask what a player can get at UA that they can not at LSU is a NC which has happened for every recruiting class under Saban. You seem to deflect that and go back to BDU or the NFL.
Interesting fact I just read. Saban's 2003 LSU NC team had 8 players go on a win a NC. The 2007 LSU has had only 5. Seems even at LSU Saban may be the difference
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:02 pm to TideWarrior
Ok. So a player can't win a title if he comes to LSU? That's completely impossible right? Do you see my point? He will have the chance to compete for titles at LSU as well is my point. Anyway, in his dreams at becoming a pro and getting better prepared as a player individually, what can bama offer that LSU cant? That's my whole point. Not a damn thing. Lol.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:06 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
You like to deflect but the point is valid. What can UA offer a player LSU can not. Better HC and a NC. Yes both programs players can become stars, get to the league, and enjoy an incredible atmosphere and great facilities but UA still has the advantage. No matter if LSU is DBU we are getting ready to get a DB drafted top 10.
So the question to a recruit now is not what UA can offer that is better then what LSU can offer but what can LSU offer that is better? And the question except maybe a better position coach(but that could change and we will see) at DB nothing LSU can offer as you stated all the great things about LSU UA also has. But we have Saban and he will get a ring. Pretty simple
So the question to a recruit now is not what UA can offer that is better then what LSU can offer but what can LSU offer that is better? And the question except maybe a better position coach(but that could change and we will see) at DB nothing LSU can offer as you stated all the great things about LSU UA also has. But we have Saban and he will get a ring. Pretty simple
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:11 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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Ok. So a player can't win a title if he comes to LSU? That's completely impossible right? Do you see my point? He will have the chance to compete for titles at LSU as well is my point. Anyway, in his dreams at becoming a pro and getting better prepared as a player individually, what can bama offer that LSU cant? That's my whole point. Not a damn thing. Lol.
Any program in the country can say they can win a title. Hope is great for everyone. Have at it but the fact still is right now Saban can tell any recruit based on history they will win a NC at UA and the recruits will believe it because every class at UA under Saban has. LSU has what won 2 NC since any recruit has been alive. One as Saban as the HC and the 2nd with many of Saban's players.
Look hang onto DBU if you think that is the end all to naming your program great. As a fan I want to have a program that wins and brings home the trophy. And in the end that is a deciding factor for many recruits like it or not and no matter how hard you argue against it. And the sad part is if LSU was winning NC you would be claiming that as an advantage over everyone else as well and should because it is.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:31 pm to TideWarrior
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And in the end that is a deciding factor for many recruits like it or not and no matter how hard you argue against it. And the sad part is if LSU was winning NC you would be claiming that as an advantage over everyone else as well and should because it is.
True. I just think sometimes Bama fans act like a recruit is making a mistake by going to ANY other school besides Bama. Bama is in a league of its own but LSU still has big boy football. LSU is a respected football team by pretty much everybody. But y'all have taken our lunch money for 7 years straight and we gotta change that. Unfortunately, Orgeron isn't gonna be that guy. But with the talent we have, MAYBE we squeak one out?
Please?!?!
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:25 pm to I-H8-BAMA
Bama's days of plucking top recruits out of louisiana are coming to an end. That will hurt them on the field somewhat. Just look at the amount of top talent Bama had landed out of LA in the past while saban has been there. When we shut that down, and we are making huge strides in doing that already, it will be a big blow to saban and he knows it. He has always put a huge priority on louisiana, as he should, because he knows the ballplayers we have here and if he signs some, it not only heightens bama's talent but it takes away from LSUs.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:55 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
We are starting to hear Surtain to MIAMI now. That would be a shocker!
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:18 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
Sounds like a day old article. Right now information over 24 hours old is useless.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:22 pm to Long Dawg
Hahaha. Alright then. Man, there's a ton of people on this site that definitely don't want LSU to get this kid. It's really flattering.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 2/5/18 at 6:36 am to ImayGoLesMiles
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what does Bama have to offer a prospect playing football that he can't get at LSU? Other than money and a charger,
lol at you thinking a player wouldn't get that from LSU if he wanted.
Anyways, You guys do realize that BOTH PS2 and TC are fully aware that WHEREVER they go, they will end up 3 and out players and high draft picks, right. That will not be the REASON they choose one school over another, especially since every school in the mix produces loads of NFL talent. So this debate over Bama vs LSU at producing NFL DBs doesn't really matter. Nor do they give a frick about the depth chart situation, since they know they will immediately EARN heavy PT. That much I can tell you for a fact. Whether the school is LSU, Bama, Miami, UGA, or Clemson for those 2, they aren't concerning themselves over which shool is #1 at producing NFL DBs.
They are purely choosing the school based on where they would like to be the next 3 years of their life. Thats why in EVERY interview, all they've been saying is they're going to choose the school that feels like home. They're going to choose the school they have the best relationship with the coaches/players/recruits at, and that offers the best student life. They aren't going to be bought off. They are just going to choose the school that built the best relationships and did the best job recruiting them.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 6:42 am to ImayGoLesMiles
Until LSU gets a QB, they are gonna be just another good team that’s not a threat to winning SECw.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 6:51 am to I-H8-BAMA
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True. I just think sometimes Bama fans act like a recruit is making a mistake by going to ANY other school besides Bama. Bama is in a league of its own but LSU still has big boy football. LSU is a respected football team by pretty much everybody. But y'all have taken our lunch money for 7 years straight and we gotta change that. Unfortunately, Orgeron isn't gonna be that guy. But with the talent we have, MAYBE we squeak one out?
Please?!?!
I am not one of those fans. Right now Bama holds the edge because we are a true contender every year but that is a slight edge because look at UGA's class. LSU puts players in the league and has a great program.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 6:55 am to ImayGoLesMiles
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Hahaha. Alright then. Man, there's a ton of people on this site that definitely don't want LSU to get this kid. It's really flattering.
Actually will disagree with that. There are a ton of people on the site that want PS2 to come to their program. You seem to think we all follow his recruitment because we do not want him at LSU only. He is a top player and every program he is considering the fans are following. It is actually sort of flattering you think we are obsessed with your program in reality we are just following a recruit.
The tragedy in all this is if he does not end up at LSU some posters will probably get banned because of all the arrogant LSU fans that screamed he was a lock and will come on here and give some reason why they lost him to money, cars, or whatever, but if he does not end up at UA our fans are not going to act the same. You guys bring this on yourselves.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 6:56 am
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:55 am to Richt_TheU
Surtain Jr is going to want to go to Miami and I think he’s known that for quite some time. That’s the way I see it.
Pat Sr loves living in Miami, and I think his family would love for him to stay home.
The Notre Dame / Miami game is what impressed the Surtain family. Pat Jr seems like he really loves his family and sees an opportunity to stay home and go to a college that has staff continuity, along with a program that has a lot of momentum moving forward.
The biggest factor is the his former HC at American Hertiage, Mike Rumph, would be his position coach. Pat Sr has a lot of respect for Rumph and is extremely comfortable letting his son play for him.
I don’t think the Surtain family was seriously considering LSU, he didn’t even visit them this year for a game. I think that says a lot. I’m sure they have great respect for Corey Raymond, but I don’t think they believe in Coach O.
Bama probably comes in second place here. Watch the visits and read the tea leaves.
Pat Sr loves living in Miami, and I think his family would love for him to stay home.
The Notre Dame / Miami game is what impressed the Surtain family. Pat Jr seems like he really loves his family and sees an opportunity to stay home and go to a college that has staff continuity, along with a program that has a lot of momentum moving forward.
The biggest factor is the his former HC at American Hertiage, Mike Rumph, would be his position coach. Pat Sr has a lot of respect for Rumph and is extremely comfortable letting his son play for him.
I don’t think the Surtain family was seriously considering LSU, he didn’t even visit them this year for a game. I think that says a lot. I’m sure they have great respect for Corey Raymond, but I don’t think they believe in Coach O.
Bama probably comes in second place here. Watch the visits and read the tea leaves.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:02 am to ImayGoLesMiles
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Bama's days of plucking top recruits out of louisiana are coming to an end.
Bama signed 4 top 100 players from Louisiana in the last recruiting class including 2 five stars
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