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Fromm will prove to be equally talented as Mayfield,
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:23 pm
With Mayfield having far more experience on his side.
But raw ability, equal. Both can make every throw.
Think Fromm has a far better surrounding cast that is accustomed to a far higher level of competition. I think what we will demand from Fromm is way lower than what OU will have to get from Mayfield.
Vandy beat the hell out of Kansas State for heaven's sake. Baylor boggles the mind. Texas has strongs defensive recruits and they slowed OU way down.
But raw ability, equal. Both can make every throw.
Think Fromm has a far better surrounding cast that is accustomed to a far higher level of competition. I think what we will demand from Fromm is way lower than what OU will have to get from Mayfield.
Vandy beat the hell out of Kansas State for heaven's sake. Baylor boggles the mind. Texas has strongs defensive recruits and they slowed OU way down.
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:03 pm to lewis and herschel
While some of your points are valid, Vanderbilt didn’t “beat the hell” out of K State, (14-7). I watched that game, and while Vandy won, they were very fortunate to do so.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:08 pm to lewis and herschel
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But raw ability, equal. Both can make every throw.
You can't actually believe they're equal yet.
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Texas has strongs defensive recruits and they slowed OU way down.
Baker still had 300 passing yards.
I really don't like going to bat for OU at all, but it's crazy to me the way that some of y'all make it seem like they are just a trash team.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:53 pm to Dawgsontop34
They wouldn't have won their conference, and they certainly wouldn't be in the CFP if they were a trash team. I just think the Dawgs have the intangibles to disrupt Oklahoma's groove.
I think back to the Mike Tyson quote:
I think back to the Mike Tyson quote:
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Everybody has a plan, till they get punched in the mouth.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:55 pm to lewis and herschel
I've got a YouTube channel with nothing but Fromm highlights and even I don't think he's on Mayfield's level right now.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:15 pm to FooManChoo
Again, the difference is experience, not raw talent.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:17 pm to Dawgy49
Vandy and TCU were the only teams to take KSUs offense completely out of the game. Both took them way below their average. Vandy played d well but still mostly sucked this year.
Rolled through both JF and BM highlights and they damn near look identical though I think Mayfield has better wheels. Mayfield also benefitted from a bunch of blown coverages throwing to wide arse open receivers. Eye discipline, disruption, sure tackles, and speed will be our friend. So will our run game as we will demolish the 3 man front if they run that shite versus our o. I also think we bat down a bunch of passes.
Did not realize we run the same RPO they do. Mayfield gets the ball out quick so we are going to have disrupt timing to give our guys a chance to get to him. So other than our occasional pro set, we look identical in the spread, slats, post, crossing patterns and outs.
His oline looks great because he, like Fromm, makes quick decisions and has a quick release. I do not think we have to crowd the Box to stop their run game but I think they will have to to stop ours.
Rolled through both JF and BM highlights and they damn near look identical though I think Mayfield has better wheels. Mayfield also benefitted from a bunch of blown coverages throwing to wide arse open receivers. Eye discipline, disruption, sure tackles, and speed will be our friend. So will our run game as we will demolish the 3 man front if they run that shite versus our o. I also think we bat down a bunch of passes.
Did not realize we run the same RPO they do. Mayfield gets the ball out quick so we are going to have disrupt timing to give our guys a chance to get to him. So other than our occasional pro set, we look identical in the spread, slats, post, crossing patterns and outs.
His oline looks great because he, like Fromm, makes quick decisions and has a quick release. I do not think we have to crowd the Box to stop their run game but I think they will have to to stop ours.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:04 am to lewis and herschel
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Fromm has a far better surrounding cast
Can't make this claim
Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:09 am to lewis and herschel
Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:12 am to Dawgy49
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Vanderbilt didn’t “beat the hell” out of K State, (14-7). I watched that game
You watched that? Were all the other channels out?
Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:56 am to djsdawg
Chubb, Michel, Swift, Godwin, Nauta, Ridley, Wimms, Hardeman... And an oline that does not get manhandled at the snap, Mayfield makes his o look good by getting the ball out very fast.
Way, way, way better d to back him up as well.
Both squads played some crap teams this year but we actually beat the snot out the ones we played.
Way, way, way better d to back him up as well.
Both squads played some crap teams this year but we actually beat the snot out the ones we played.
This post was edited on 12/23/17 at 9:22 am
Posted on 12/23/17 at 10:19 am to lewis and herschel
Oklahoma is loaded w/ 4 star dudes at every skill position and they have arguably the best line in country (ND has a case). They are the most explosive and efficient offense of all time right now.
I love Fromm and he’s got a ton a great qualities but dude, come on, comparing him to Mayfield—a guy in the conversation for the best college quarterback of all time—is insane.
I think we win (possibly big if we get rolling) but to insinuate OU is not a good team is setting yourself up for disappointment. They are for real.
I love Fromm and he’s got a ton a great qualities but dude, come on, comparing him to Mayfield—a guy in the conversation for the best college quarterback of all time—is insane.
I think we win (possibly big if we get rolling) but to insinuate OU is not a good team is setting yourself up for disappointment. They are for real.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:30 pm to JackTraven
What we should hope for is not that Fromm can play on the same level as Mayfield, but that our defense can shut him down enough for our offense to take over. We shouldn't try to beat them at their own game but to play our game our way and let the best team win.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 12:50 pm to lewis and herschel
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Chubb, Michel, Swift, Godwin, Nauta, Ridley, Wimms, Hardeman... And an oline that does not get manhandled at the snap, Mayfield makes his o look good by getting the ball out very fast.
Ou has badass' as well
Posted on 12/23/17 at 3:13 pm to djsdawg
This is a ridiculous thread. Love how Fromm has performed as a true freshman but he is not even close to Mayfield's level at this point. However, we don't need him to be Baker Mayfield. We need him to play like he did in the SEC Championship game and hope our offensive line controls the line of scrimmage like they have much of the season.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 4:29 pm to TearsofKnowshon
Bottom line, Fromm has lead his team to the playoffs as a true freshman. Think about that, game manager or not, he made the throws he had to to win when it mattered in a run heavy offense.
I also think he will be in the Heisman hunt next year.
When you watch the replays they even look like one another in the pocket and the ball comes out almost identically.
I also think he will be in the Heisman hunt next year.
When you watch the replays they even look like one another in the pocket and the ball comes out almost identically.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 4:31 pm to TearsofKnowshon
This thread is pretty rediculous but the circle jerk over on LT is just as bad.
They are all trying to convince each they have a good defense and that our defense can't slow them down because they did well against different SEC teams in years past. They actually think they can win the game by running the ball on us.
38-17 Dawgs on Top
They are all trying to convince each they have a good defense and that our defense can't slow them down because they did well against different SEC teams in years past. They actually think they can win the game by running the ball on us.
38-17 Dawgs on Top
Posted on 12/23/17 at 4:37 pm to lewis and herschel
It isn't a knock on Fromm to say he isn't on Mayfield's level. Fromm has done essentially everything the coaches have asked of him and had a sensational freshman season, but Mayfield is having one of the best seasons ever for a quarterback. Comparing them at this point in time is asinine.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 5:08 pm to Barstools
The fear over there is palpable.
Posted on 12/23/17 at 5:16 pm to TearsofKnowshon
Comparing them on the field is exactly what is about to happen....
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