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Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:40 pm
recruit well under Dooley? They've recruited pretty well under Butch, and I was wondering how much of that is from the coaching staff and how much is from UT's historical success.
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:46 pm to AllbyMyRelf
No, they did not recruit well w Dooley, despite having one of the biggest recruiting expenditures in the sec/country. High school coaches in TN & GA (see Vonn Bell at Ridgeland) didnt have any contact w their designated recruiter.
Those Hawaii recruits needed to be seen in person
Those Hawaii recruits needed to be seen in person
Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:49 pm to AllbyMyRelf
I believe his average recruiting class ranked about 18th. So no. He fricked up in state relationships very badly.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:56 pm to volfan30
I mean UT has a pretty shite recruiting territory anyway if we are being honest.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:34 pm to skirpnasty
Lol
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:40 pm to mountain D values
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Lol
Lol indeed.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:41 pm to skirpnasty
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I mean UT has a pretty shite recruiting territory anyway if we are being honest.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:48 pm to mountain D values
Please do tell me how talent rich east Tennessee is.
You get sloppy 4ths out of Memphis behind State, OM, and Bama. The South of you is owned by Alabama. North of you is barren.
Face it, all you have is East TN. And that's heavily contested by UGA, SC, and Clemson. All of which are better programs than UT.
You get sloppy 4ths out of Memphis behind State, OM, and Bama. The South of you is owned by Alabama. North of you is barren.
Face it, all you have is East TN. And that's heavily contested by UGA, SC, and Clemson. All of which are better programs than UT.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:50 pm to skirpnasty
Oh my. We have a dumbass here fellas. 
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:52 pm to skirpnasty
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I mean UT has a pretty shite recruiting territory anyway if we are being honest.
That was true 5 years ago. Not anymore. Tennessee is now PRIME recruiting territory. If you don't believe me, check out the 247 prospect rankings for the 2019 class.
In the 2019 class, Tennessee currently has 19 composite 4-star recruits. That is 5th most in the nation after Florida, Texas, Georgia, and California. And if you look at the early rankings for the 2020 class, there are more players from Tennessee (8) ranked in 247s Top Prospects Rankings than all but 4 other states (once again Florida, Texas, Georgia, and California).
The 2017 and 2018 instate classes in Tennessee were pretty good. 2017 had 3 composite 5-stars from the state of Tennessee (Trey Smith, Tee Higgins, and Jacoby Stevens). However, the 2019 and 2020 classes take it to another level.
Tennessee can now officially be called the 5th best recruiting hotbed in the country after Florida, Texas, Georgia, and California. By the numbers, Tennessee is more fertile recruiting ground NOW than Louisiana.
Men lie. Women lie. Numbers don't. If you don't believe me, go and check the numbers for yourself.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:56 pm to liLtUneChi
Not saying the state as a whole doesn't have talent. The issue is the whole state doesn't gravitate to UT. It isn't like LSU or UGA where everyone in the State is a fan. Memphis is a split of about 5 different schools. And to a lesser extent, so is Nashville.
This issue isn't the talent that is or
isn't there's that UT doesn't have a firm grasp on all of that talent outside of East TN.
This issue isn't the talent that is or
isn't there's that UT doesn't have a firm grasp on all of that talent outside of East TN.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:59 pm to skirpnasty
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Please do tell me how talent rich east Tennessee is.
You get sloppy 4ths out of Memphis behind State, OM, and Bama. The South of you is owned by Alabama. North of you is barren.
Face it, all you have is East TN. And that's heavily contested by UGA, SC, and Clemson. All of which are better programs than UT.
Actually most of the instate talent coming out of Tennessee right now is coming from the midstate. The Nashville Metropolitan Area has EXPLODED in population the last 10-15 years. That is what has driven the increase in talent in the state of Tennessee. Most of the great players from the state of Tennessee in recent years like Jalen Ramsey (1st Round Pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars), Derek Barnett (1st Round Pick of the Philadelphia Eagles), Jalen Hurd (former 5-star recruit), and Josh Malone (former 5-star recruit/current NFL WR) are from the mid-state area.
The growth of Nashville and surrounding counties in the mid-state is what has driven the EXPLOSION in talent across the state of Tennessee. UT has done a pretty good job recruiting in Nashville. And there is no reason to believe that won't continue with Jon Gruden as head coach.
According to the prospect rankings for the 2019 class, the state of Tennessee is now officially the 5th best state in the country when it comes to blue-chip college football talent. There are more composite 4-star recruits and ESPN 300 prospects in the state of Tennessee for the class of 2019 than all but 4 other states (Florida, Texas, Georgia, and California).
Tennessee has passed Louisiana when it comes to the number of blue-chip prospects in the class of 2019.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:01 pm to skirpnasty
Lol
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:02 pm to AllbyMyRelf
Didn't one of Dooley's recruiting classes include zero offensive linemen?
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:03 pm to liLtUneChi
Middle Tennessee is hot and has been for some years.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:03 pm to skirpnasty
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Not saying the state as a whole doesn't have talent. The issue is the whole state doesn't gravitate to UT. It isn't like LSU or UGA where everyone in the State is a fan. Memphis is a split of about 5 different schools. And to a lesser extent, so is Nashville.
This issue isn't the talent that is or
isn't there's that UT doesn't have a firm grasp on all of that talent outside of East TN.
That's true.
That is why the next hire at UT is so important. If they can get a legitimate big name like Jon Gruden then he'll lock down the state easily. The reason there isn't a lot of loyalty for Tennessee is because they've been down for so long. All they need a championship caliber coach who can bring them back to the level they were in the late 90s and the recruits will come.
Tennessee is right now in a similar position to LSU before they got Saban. Before Saban, the state of Louisiana was still producing a lot of talent but most of that talent like Ed Reed (Miami) for example were going out of state. Then Saban got there and started to lock down the state. LSU started winning. And the rest was history.
Get a big-name coach in Tennessee and he'll lock down the state. Then they'll start winning. And the rest will be history.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:03 pm to liLtUneChi
Exactly my point. Nashville is a hodgepodge of SEC fanbases. Meaning it isn't so much an area that UT is going to dominate recruiting in, a lot of teams do and will have their fingers in that jar.
ETA: Just saw your last post. That makes sense, and it's definitely possible. I just see the state as being spread too wide for that to happen. The fact is that most all the population of Louisiana is closer to LSU than any other school. Memphis is what, 2-3 hours closer to State/OM than UT Knox? The same holds true for a lot of areas in the state, you don't have the advantage of being 5+ hours from every other conference school like Louisiana does.
ETA: Just saw your last post. That makes sense, and it's definitely possible. I just see the state as being spread too wide for that to happen. The fact is that most all the population of Louisiana is closer to LSU than any other school. Memphis is what, 2-3 hours closer to State/OM than UT Knox? The same holds true for a lot of areas in the state, you don't have the advantage of being 5+ hours from every other conference school like Louisiana does.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:11 pm to skirpnasty
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It isn't like LSU or UGA where everyone in the State is a fan.
You been to Georgia
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:37 pm to skirpnasty
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I mean UT has a pretty shite recruiting territory anyway if we are being honest.
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Not saying the state as a whole doesn't have talent. The issue is the whole state doesn't gravitate to UT. It isn't like LSU or UGA where everyone in the State is a fan. Memphis is a split of about 5 different schools. And to a lesser extent, so is Nashville.
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Exactly my point. Nashville is a hodgepodge of SEC fanbases. Meaning it isn't so much an area that UT is going to dominate recruiting in, a lot of teams do and will have their fingers in that jar.
Just admit you were clueless and took multiple dicks to the face ITT. Just walk away with what little dignity you have left
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:48 pm to liLtUneChi
Tennessee might have a good year this year, but this is a down year for Louisiana. It will be back. Alot of the kids in tennessee are transplants that have nothing for ut to begin with.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 11:56 pm
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