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Not so fast. Total points mean little except teams like UT have committed a bunch of 3 stars. It's the average of the recruits that matter. Clemson is at a 4 then you have a litany of the usual suspects like OSU in the Big Ten, UF, UGA and Bama in the SEC with LSU just a little off that pace. USC and Oregon out west. The Aggies in Texas with UT just behind.


I guess that's one way to try and deny Tennessee's success so far.

They also have more 5-stars currently committed to them than any other school not named Ohio State. So while there are a lot of 3-stars currently in the class, there are also more 5-stars than all but one other school. Also they have momentum right now with several more 4-stars projected to commit to them in under a week.

Its very likely that all this momentum will lead to them picking up even more highly regarded players and some of those 3-stars they took early on will be let go.

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There are people in college who were too young to remember the last time Tennessee beat Alabama. It's exhausting trying to explain that you guys used to be relevant and that's why you're one of our "rivals".


I can understand the sentiment. I was a kid in the late 90s/early 2000s when I was first exposed to college football and didn't even know Alabama was considered a good football program. Tennessee and Florida used to dominate the SEC in those days.

Times change.
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Dobbs was trash


With Dobbs at QB, Tennessee was FIRST the SEC in offensive TDs in 2016. Without Dobbs at QB, Tennessee was LAST in the SEC in offensive TDs in 2017.

With Dobbs at QB, Tennessee scored a SCHOOL RECORD for points in a season in 2016. Without Dobbs at QB, Tennessee had one of the lowest scoring seasons in program history in 2017.

The difference that Dobbs made was significant. Tennessee literally went from the BEST offense in the SEC and school history to the WORST offense in the SEC and school history overnight.

History will do Dobbs justice. He was greatly underappreciated at Tennessee and in the SEC.
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One year isn't a valid sample


The thing about the instate talent in Tennessee is that its been rising steadily for the last 4-5 years. If you only look backwards, you won't see the change that is coming.

The 2019 class in the state of Tennessee is significantly better than 2018 class. And the 2020 class is looking to be as good or even better than 2019.

The rise in talent in the state of Tennessee is only getting better. It won't be long before you see Tennessee born players being in the top 5 of states when it comes to producing NFL players.
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I feel bad for Williams. Because of that play every casual idiot thinks he sucks.


Which is sad because he was easily the best rookie safety in the league this year and looked like a future pro-bowler/all-pro before that play.

I hope that play doesn't mess with him mentally because he's really talented.
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Didn't Tennessee have like 3 or 4 five stars defensive lineman in the same class? Seems like none of them lived up to the hype. Kyle Phillips was one of the others


All suffered from the injury bug. Kahlil was probably the most healthy and the most effective as a result. Kyle Phillips and Shy Tuttle have been injured for practically their entire tenure at Tennessee.
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looks like Clowney


Those are actually really good stats for a 1-technique DT.

Go and look up all-world Alabama DT Da'Ron Payne's 2017 stats. They are actually worse than Kahlil when it comes to sacks and TFLs. And he plays a similar position in the 3-4 (0-tecnique) that Kahlil plays in the 4-3 (1-technique).

Nose tackles don't get much in the way of sacks or TFLs. Their job is to do the dirty work that doesn't show up on the stat sheet like taking up double teams, plugging gaps, and collapsing the pocket from the middle on passing downs so the defensive ends can get sacks.

Kahlil McKenzie will play for a long time in the NFL as a nose tackle.
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35 tackles
3.5 tackles for loss
2 sacks

yikes


He's a 3-4 nose tackle at the next level. His job isn't to get sacks and TFLs. Its to take up double teams, plug his gaps, and on 3rd down (if he's actually on the field) to get pressure up the middle so the QB moves out of the pocket.

Even the best nose tackles in the NFL rarely gets sacks or TFLs. They do the dirty work that goes unnoticed by the typical fan that is just watching where the ball does during the game.
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UDFA


I think people will be surprised by how high he gets drafted. His stock is much higher with NFL scouts than you think. He's an ideal 3-4 nose tackle. He does a good job taking on double teams and plugging his gaps. He also showed this year he can actually get some decent pressure up the middle on passing downs as a bull rusher.

Kahlil McKenzie will a solid showing at the combine could get drafted in the 3rd round.

He's a lot better than most think.
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Kamara isn’t a sprinter. His agility and balance is what sets him apart.


He's also got the best initial burst and acceleration in the league. Remember he had the highest vertical and broad jump of any RB at the draft last year. And that typically tests initial burst and acceleration.

Kamara is explosive through the hole and he has amazing balance and agility that allows him to break tackles and make people miss once he's in the open field. And he has enough top end speed that if he gets a crease he can take it to the house. He's basically close to being the perfect RB.

The only RB I've seen with a better skill set is Saquon Barkley because he can do everything Alvin can do in addition to having that freaky top end speed where nobody can catch him.
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No Alvin Kamara???


What makes Alvin Kamara special isn't his top end speed, its his initial BURST. I believe he was timed as being the fastest RB in the NFL to the line of scrimmage. That is why he led the league in yards per carry. Because getting to the line of scrimmage and exploding through the hole is a lot more important than your top end speed once you're in the open field.

That's why Fournette and Henry even with all that top end speed are averaging less than 4.0 YPC while Alvin is averaging over 6.0 YPC.

Initial acceleration >>> Top end speed (in the NFL)
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Can’t wait to see what they’re actually capable of with a year to kroot and not a few weeks while they’re still coaching their other teams


This staff is so good at recruiting and the instate talent pool is so loaded in Tennessee for 2019 that I'll be shocked if they don't land a top 3 class next year. I'm guessing the top 3 recruiting classes in 2019 will be (in no particular order):

Georgia
Florida State
Tennessee

Georgia will be coming off a national championship so I expect another stellar class. While FSU and Tennessee will benefit from the hype of a first year head coaches. Both Taggart and Pruitt are elite recruiters so expect them to have elite classes like Herman had this year.

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Two words: Cade Mays.


This happens during transitional years.

Lets see what happens next year.

I got a feeling Pruitt locks down the state in 2019.
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The state of Tennessee's highest rated recruit for 2019 is .95 on 247.

You have to go down to #15 on Georgia's list to get to a .95, that's not really surprising considering the talent in Georgia next year.

UGA already has the two of the top three players in state committed for next year, and will most likely have all 3 of the top 3 before it's over.


I meant unprecedented in terms of Tennessee classes of the past. 247 currently has 18 composite 4-stars in Tennessee for the class of 2019. That is twice as many as the state has had in 2017 and 2018. And both those years were considered the most talented instate classes ever in the state of Tennessee.

Talent across the state of Tennessee is at an all-time high right now.
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What a shitty username


You wish you thought of it first. A lot better than something plain like "stomp".
I'll be SHOCKED if Tennessee doesn't have a top 3 recruiting class in 2019.

Butch Jones was able to land 2 top 5 recruiting classes in his first 3 years and that staff didn't have anywhere close to the caliber of recruiters this staff has. And the state of Tennessee was not as loaded with talent as the state will be in 2019.

This is an elite staff Pruitt has put together will a lot of elite recruiters. The state of Tennessee is also loaded with an unprecedented class of instate recruits in 2019. It'll be very hard for them to land an elite recruiting class in 2019 and 2020.
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Maybe good (meh), but not anywhere near Kamaras level

One of them is Rookie of the year and a pro bowler in the NFL, one of them is a backup tight end at 1-11 Baylor

Lyle Stupid


This revisionist history is getting ridiculous. No Tennessee fan was calling Hurd average in 2015. Most were arguing he was the best RB in the SEC and better than Fournette. Hurd was also considered a Heisman Trophy candidate heading into the 2016 season. ESPN in fact did a story on him being a Heisman candidate.

Hurd was very good. In fact in 2015, one could argue he was ELITE. Especially given how bad the Tennessee offensive line was.

With that said, Butch still should have given Alvin more playing time. Because even though Hurd was better than him in 2015, Alvin was still the 3rd best player on Tennessee's offense. He deserved more touches and should have been used more as a receiver out of the backfield like Sean Payton is using him right now. But Vols fans need to stop rewriting history on Jalen Hurd.
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They have some serious talent coming in, and at key positions too.

The "maybe 3" is this year, yet I do not see it happening, unfortunately.


You are right about the 2 national titles over the next 4 years, you're just wrong about the years. Georgia wins the natty in 2017 and 2019.

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Anyone who watched them both play always wondered the same thing. Kamara was a beast and Hurd was joe average.


That's simply not true.

I know Tennessee fans hate Butch Jones and Jalen Hurd now, but NOBODY was saying this in 2015 when Jalen Hurd was running for 1,000+ yards. Hurd was phenomenal that year behind a terrible offensive line. He was a stud against Oklahoma, Florida, and in the bowl game versus Northwestern. Hurd even ran the ball better against Alabama that year than just about any other RB.

Also Kamara was not as good in 2015 as he was in 2016 and now in the NFL.

Butch Jones messed up by not playing Kamara more. But Hurd was the better runner in 2015. Kamara became the better player in 2016. And obviously he's even better now in the NFL. I think people need to understand that sometimes players get better over time. Alvin improved every year at Tennessee. And he's now improved in the NFL.
Its Georgia's world right now and we're just living in it.

Look for them to win the national title this year and in 2019.

Kirby leaves for the NFL in 2021.