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Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:09 pm
Does he have a chance to be signed by Houston?
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:48 pm to I Bleed Garnet
I think so now.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:16 pm to UpstateCock2007
Happy for Shaw, but I was also pulling for Watson.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 11:10 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Would like to see some team just give him a shot and watch what he can do.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:22 am to Mr.Sinister
It would be nice, but it would take a disaster at QB for Shaw to start for an NFL team.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:26 am to Mr.Sinister
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Would like to see some team just give him a shot and watch what he can do.
agreed.
I look at the bottom 7-8 QBs in the NFL. I saw Shaw is better than em all. And a heck of a better competitor.
Shaw > Kizer, Flacco, Siemien, Cutler/Moore, Brissett, Bortles, Palmer, Manning,Dalton, Keenum.
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It would be nice, but it would take a disaster at QB for Shaw to start for an NFL team.
isn't that what just happened at Houston?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:35 am to I Bleed Garnet
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isn't that what just happened at Houston?
Yeah but they picked up Yates again, probably since they're familiar with him.
The knock on Shaw is his arm strength. He got away with not making some throws in college but that won't fly in the NFL. I'm not shitting on the guy, it's just facts.
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Shaw > Kizer, Siemien, Cutler/Moore, Brissett, Bortles, Keenum.
Maybe/Debateable
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Shaw > Flacco, Manning, Dalton, Palmer
Not even close
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:10 am to atlgamecockman
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Maybe/Debateable
disagree.
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Not even close
also disagree.
Some of those guys should also Retire.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 12:18 pm to I Bleed Garnet
2x Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning < Currently not on a practice squad Connor Shaw.
Yeah, sure bud.
Yeah, sure bud.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 12:41 pm to atlgamecockman
the NFL, especially when it comes to QBs is a very strange place. Teams with anchor themselves to QBs with abysmal win/loss ratios for years on end but will cycle coaches through like crazy. Looking to that level of the game for common sense when it comes to that position is like that commercial with the guy banging his head against the crossbeam.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 12:52 pm to GameCocky88
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the NFL, especially when it comes to QBs is a very strange place. Teams with anchor themselves to QBs with abysmal win/loss ratios for years on end but will cycle coaches through like crazy. Looking to that level of the game for common sense when it comes to that position is like that commercial with the guy banging his head against the crossbeam.
The curse of the franchise QB. Every team is hoping that their QB is going to be the promised one who will lead them for more then a decade and get them multiple Super Bowl titles.
"We can't fire Engelbert! Yes, he won 4 games for us last year and threw as many INTs as TDs, but we took him in the first round of the draft. It has to be the coaches fault!"
Such a high value is placed on landing that Franchise QB (even though only 3-4 QBs every generation live up to that sort of billing) that even when its clear that your guy is not the guy teams refuse to cut their losses.
It is the opposite of college football. Here its "Wow, our QB is great! What a shame he'll be gone in a year." and in the NFL its "Wow, our QB sucks. What a shame he'll be here for at least another five years."
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:05 pm to Arksulli
exactly. Jay Cutler, Josh McCown, Blake Bortles, Marcus Mariota, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, Jameis Winston. All these guys have started for their teams for YEARS with no end in sight and have losing records. a good many have never even seen the post season and there are 1st/2nd round QBs that come out of college every freakin year that just rot on the bench.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:08 pm to atlgamecockman
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Yeah, sure bud.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:10 pm to GameCocky88
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the NFL, especially when it comes to QBs is a very strange place. Teams with anchor themselves to QBs with abysmal win/loss ratios for years on end but will cycle coaches through like crazy. Looking to that level of the game for common sense when it comes to that position is like that commercial with the guy banging his head against the crossbeam.
This pretty much sums it up.
I was watching the Jets-Bills game last night. Josh Mccown is still in the NFL.
He has played for 8 teams.
As long as he is playing, he will have a job.
Those guys are just that much better than a guy like Shaw, from and NFL QB standpoint.
It says something how talented the NFL is.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:16 pm to GameCocky88
huh?
Winston and Mariota have been in the league for 2 years and are first round picks
Already writing them off?
Winston and Mariota have been in the league for 2 years and are first round picks
Already writing them off?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:24 pm to I Bleed Garnet
I'm not saying that they shouldn't be starting necessarily. What I am saying is that even if they do get replaced that it won't be for probably 4-5 more years and when that finally does happen it will be by a guy coming fresh outta college. There will have be 6-8 drafts with 1st and second rounders that would have entered the league by that point that typically don't get a look.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:28 pm to GameCocky88
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There will have be 6-8 drafts with 1st and second rounders that would have entered the league by that point that typically don't get a look.
what do you mean by this?
Get the look the replace a guy like Winston or Mariota if they fail?
Well no of course not because they will be on another team and be doing the same thing those guys do.
in this day and age of a QB I don't think you'll see a First rounder sit his entire first year.
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