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re: Arkansas-71 @ Oklahoma State-99 Final

Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:01 pm to
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I don't post a ton anyway.


Because we haven't lost that much.
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:03 pm to
Who would you say is our marquee victory? And do you disagree that our defensive strategy needs work, as a framework, regardless of opponent?

Wins is a pretty black and white way of interpreting success of a program, trajectory, consistency, etc. Dallas Cowboys playing in the Super Bowl?
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:04 pm to
Not to mention, people like you accuse me being a miserable person when I point out negatives IN A LOSS. Like I want to argue the finer points of a 60 minute game in a WIN?
This post was edited on 1/28/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Notherdamnhog
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:05 pm to
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Could you guys get a 4 or 5 seed in NCAA tournament?
Maybe if Calapari would give Monk back and Kingsley would live up to his pre season SEC POTY status.

We're far from done and I still think we can make the dance. Just got to find some leadership and consistency. The talent is there.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:14 pm to
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Not to mention, people like you accuse me being a miserable person when I point out negatives IN A LOSS. Like I want to argue the finer points of a 60 minute game in a WIN?


If you did, you could see the flaw in your argument. Our defense won the game against Vandy just a few days ago.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:15 pm to
I hate our performances like these.

What pisses me off the most is the rest of the league is looking damn good against the Big 12 and we folded like a cheap tent. I knew this was going to happen.

Oh well, maybe the league can earn some respect closing this thing out.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:19 pm to
Yeah it would be nice to win the challenge for perception.
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:22 pm to
One game, against a mediocre team in a bad ball conference, proves it alright. Since I'm totally not discussing our FRAMEWORK. How have you not gotten this yet?

Oh, we didn't give up a ton of rushing TDs so our rush defense is great! As a hypothetical, does that statement tell you everything one would need to know about someone's rush defense?
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:24 pm to
Our FRAMEWORK has led to a 16-5 record, so it's obviously been pretty successful.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:46 pm to
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:52 pm to
Oh gee- I have been occupied all day and just now looked. Ewwwww
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:07 pm to
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Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:08 pm to
heysus arkysaw way to look like misery
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:11 pm to
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Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:35 pm to
I was being (still am actually) a do-gooder. Shoulda known better!
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:51 pm to
16-5 for top 25 money. ROI is pathetic and you know it.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:53 pm to
That's a good record, what the hell are you talking about?
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:46 pm to
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That's a good record, what the hell are you talking about?



False equivalence. 16-5 may be "good," but is it top 25 good? No. Not with the losses we've had. Not when our best win is against f'ing TN. Seriously, we've got 16 wins and none of them are all that impressive. If you disagree, please state your case as to why I'm wrong.

And, since you brought up black and white analysis...Where am I saying we're terrible? Where am I saying MA's worthless? There's a whole level of gray between black and white. He's in the gray. To argue otherwise ignores all fault and outs you as a fan of the coach, not the school.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:55 pm to
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but is it top 25 good?


Our RPI was 27 entering the game today so it's pretty close.
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 9:03 pm to
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Our RPI was 27 entering the game today so it's pretty close.



And after today?

We have no good wins. We have a couple/few ugly losses.

MA is overpaid given his success so far at Arkansas. If we're not sniffing the top 25 with any level of consistency...
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