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re: Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:04 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:04 pm to TeLeFaWx
i actually agree with a lot of the OP. i started out as an Obama hater early on and then softened a bit in my early 30s.
the man has a different world view than i do. he wants good for people, we just want to go about it very different ways.
i think he's an insanely better man than Trump, but less so than Bush. But he was a better president than Bush by a mile as far as being effective and getting his message out.
that being said. i think he's a godless man and his moral fiber waxes and wanes with popular opinion as opposed to any true stances. most of that would be where our differences stem from. but at the end of the day, i'd have a beer with him.
his greatest failures were in 3 things:
race relations
foreign policy ( i don't mind droning, but he's a hypocrite)
ACA ( i agree with preexisting conditions, but that's it really)
don't even need to explain them. the record stands for itself.
the man has a different world view than i do. he wants good for people, we just want to go about it very different ways.
i think he's an insanely better man than Trump, but less so than Bush. But he was a better president than Bush by a mile as far as being effective and getting his message out.
that being said. i think he's a godless man and his moral fiber waxes and wanes with popular opinion as opposed to any true stances. most of that would be where our differences stem from. but at the end of the day, i'd have a beer with him.
his greatest failures were in 3 things:
race relations
foreign policy ( i don't mind droning, but he's a hypocrite)
ACA ( i agree with preexisting conditions, but that's it really)
don't even need to explain them. the record stands for itself.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:08 pm to 3nOut
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i actually agree with a lot of the OP.
The smart ones always do.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 3:25 pm to 3nOut
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Obama's Farewell Address and what you will remember him for.
i actually agree with a lot of the OP. i started out as an Obama hater early on and then softened a bit in my early 30s.
I'm the exact opposite. I started of knowing I'd disagree with a lot of his politics but being very hopeful that he'd use is position to improve race relations and be an inspiration to young black men. I really thought he had a great chance to be a positive influence on a lot of lives.
I grew to despise him when I saw that instead of doing that, he was going all in with the 'blame whitey and frick the police' movement.
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