re: The 7th/8th best SEC team is a touchdown underdog vs. the 4th/5th best ACC team

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But he got fired because of...

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02 title shot was lost because of zook.


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great team in 05 but lost to 2 teams we shouldn't

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In 07 we had a great team but lost to fulmer and spurrier.

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Are you asking if he got fired because of 10 years of losses we shoudln't have, as opposed to 1 single game we lost against a national champion? Yeah, that is what I'm saying.

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Wasn't Georgia riding high in 2015 until 38-10 between the hedges?

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riding high? We beat 2 cupcakes, Vanderbilt, and South Carolina. Nobody of note. And in case you missed it, we also lost to butch and lost by 24 to UF that year. Did mcelwain run richt off too?

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m not saying Saban was the only reason Richt or Miles (or the other ones currently on the brink) got run off, but the inability to come through with that great championship year at least some of the time will kill a coach's career, even an otherwise successful one. With Saban around, that year is awfully hard to find.

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I agree with the broad, overall point that teams would almost surely have more success overall than they have if saban weren't here. I mean that's common sense. But I don't think that "saban ran people off" is accurate. Once again, Richt was here 15 years...if saban ran him off that was the slowest running off ever.

Heck look at all the years since our last SECC that had absolutley nothing to do wiht saban:

06- lost 4 games
07- lost to two inferior teams
08- lost 3 games (wouldn't have gone to SECCG even if we beat bama since UF went undefeated)
09- lost 5 games
10- had a losing record
11- lost 4 games, trounced in SECCG
12- legit great season, lost to alabama for title shot
13- lost 5 games, largely due to injuries
14- lost 3 games
15- lost 3 games

Over that 10 year span, only once did saban directly hinder our chance at a title shot.