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re: Rape survivor Brenda Tracy invited to speak to the Auburn football team
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:10 pm to jangalang
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:10 pm to jangalang
Exactly. This is a legal issue, and a moral issue. It's an intelligent business decision.
Rape is not an issue that should vary based on your political leanings. Don't rape people, mkay.
Rape is not an issue that should vary based on your political leanings. Don't rape people, mkay.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:22 pm to jangalang
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Auburn is doing a service to themselves in helping protec themselves from lawsuits down the road if that issue ever comes up.
but, this talk could have been held in the off season
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:25 pm to HailToTheChiz
at people criticizing this.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:28 pm to HailToTheChiz
Maybe so. I think this is a non-news item either way.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:31 pm to Zeroforwinger
The coaching staff addressing the issue with the team should suffice... This is window dressing
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:33 pm to Luke
I'm sure this lady's story has more impact than anything the coaches could say. Your opposition to this is very puzzling.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:34 pm to Luke
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The coaching staff addressing the issue with the team should suffice... This is window dressing
Posted on 8/23/16 at 6:05 pm to beatbammer
With all the shite going on with other teams, this is definitely needed. Be proactive.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 6:53 pm to HailToTheChiz
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but, this talk could have been held in the off season
If you read the article, you'd know they're doing it during the off-week.
Also, if you read the article, you'd know that her talk and question-and-answer session takes all of about an hour.
An hour.
IT'S A frickING HOUR, what the hell are you guys so worked up for?
Something GOOD our athletic department is doing and still some of you whiners gotta whine.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 8:34 pm to beatbammer
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If you read the article, you'd know they're doing it during the off-week.
Also, if you read the article, you'd know that her talk and question-and-answer session takes all of about an hour.
An hour.
IT'S A frickING HOUR, what the hell are you guys so worked up for?
Something GOOD our athletic department is doing and still some of you whiners gotta whine.
good lord man, i'm just asking a question
there is nothing wrong with this. i think it's a good thing. I just was curious as to why they chose mid season versus offseason.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:35 am to HailToTheChiz
I'm sure after speaking to several other schools and gaining a reputation, that Auburn had a few slots they could choose from and she probably wasn't available at the time. Who cares really though
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:49 am to beatbammer
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you'd know they're doing it during the off-week.
"If we don't get good QB play there's a good chance our whole team will know firsthand what rape is." - half the AU rant posters.
In all seriousness, this is a good move to address a serious problem. And for those who think it's unnecessary and believe football should be primary focus, think about the distraction and problems for a program an incident like this can cause, i.e. Baylor.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:53 am to atlau
It may be shocking for some folks to hear, but it's not always about football.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:16 pm to beatbammer
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Nice work, Jay Jacobs
Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:42 pm to Zeroforwinger
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How is rape, and not raping people, a PC issue?
It's PC because bringing in speakers to talk about rape is a trendy thing to do for football programs right now. I think it's all theater and doesn't really do anything to prevent it. If a kid doesn't know what rape is, he really shouldn't be in college in the first place.
There's a lot of reasons for the increase of rape on campus (if there is an increase at all -- the statistics are fuzzy). Either way, I don't think a lack of "player education" is one of them. I think it has more to do with the culture in general. If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
It's hard for me to believe these girls are that stupid, but apparently many of them are. If you read about these campus rape stories, almost all of them involve a girl out getting sloshed with a bunch of dudes and ending up back at one of their dorms/apartments. Almost none of them involve a dude snatching a chick from the sidewalk and knocking her on the head, etc. It's always a story of alcohol, passing out, and getting trained by a bunch of dudes she was out partying with.
Why can't we "educate" the girls about not putting themselves in these positions? Why is it always the guys that are the villains? Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning rape, even in these type of situations. I am only asking why is it always the guys that have to be the focus? Why can't we say "hey, girls, you're kinda putting yourself in bad positions here?"
Maybe I am just getting old and cynical. But I was that age once and people got shite-faced and partied then too. Most of the time, though, the girls were not alone or acting totally stupid. They were smart enough to bring other girls with them (or often guys they trusted).
My point is that groups are always better -- stay with a fricking group. Stop going out with a bunch of dudes alone and thinking that the guys wont get any ideas. If you're at a bar and a dude convinces you to go home with him, you should EXPECT that he wants sex. There's zero other reason he would want you to come back with him. Get a fricking clue.
End of rant.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:48 pm to AUstar
quote:mother of god
It's PC because bringing in speakers to talk about rape is a trendy thing to do for football programs right now. I think it's all theater and doesn't really do anything to prevent it. If a kid doesn't know what rape is, he really shouldn't be in college in the first place.
There's a lot of reasons for the increase of rape on campus (if there is an increase at all -- the statistics are fuzzy). Either way, I don't think a lack of "player education" is one of them. I think it has more to do with the culture in general. If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
It's hard for me to believe these girls are that stupid, but apparently many of them are. If you read about these campus rape stories, almost all of them involve a girl out getting sloshed with a bunch of dudes and ending up back at one of their dorms/apartments. Almost none of them involve a dude snatching a chick from the sidewalk and knocking her on the head, etc. It's always a story of alcohol, passing out, and getting trained by a bunch of dudes she was out partying with.
Why can't we "educate" the girls about not putting themselves in these positions? Why is it always the guys that are the villains? Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning rape, even in these type of situations. I am only asking why is it always the guys that have to be the focus? Why can't we say "hey, girls, you're kinda putting yourself in bad positions here?"
Maybe I am just getting old and cynical. But I was that age once and people got shite-faced and partied then too. Most of the time, though, the girls were not alone or acting totally stupid. They were smart enough to bring other girls with them (or often guys they trusted).
My point is that groups are always better -- stay with a fricking group. Stop going out with a bunch of dudes alone and thinking that the guys wont get any ideas. If you're at a bar and a dude convinces you to go home with him, you should EXPECT that he wants sex. There's zero other reason he would want you to come back with him. Get a fricking clue.
End of rant.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:23 pm to AUstar
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It's PC because bringing in speakers to talk about rape is a trendy thing to do for football programs right now. I think it's all theater and doesn't really do anything to prevent it. If a kid doesn't know what rape is, he really shouldn't be in college in the first place.
There's a lot of reasons for the increase of rape on campus (if there is an increase at all -- the statistics are fuzzy). Either way, I don't think a lack of "player education" is one of them. I think it has more to do with the culture in general. If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
It's hard for me to believe these girls are that stupid, but apparently many of them are. If you read about these campus rape stories, almost all of them involve a girl out getting sloshed with a bunch of dudes and ending up back at one of their dorms/apartments. Almost none of them involve a dude snatching a chick from the sidewalk and knocking her on the head, etc. It's always a story of alcohol, passing out, and getting trained by a bunch of dudes she was out partying with.
Why can't we "educate" the girls about not putting themselves in these positions? Why is it always the guys that are the villains? Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning rape, even in these type of situations. I am only asking why is it always the guys that have to be the focus? Why can't we say "hey, girls, you're kinda putting yourself in bad positions here?"
Maybe I am just getting old and cynical. But I was that age once and people got shite-faced and partied then too. Most of the time, though, the girls were not alone or acting totally stupid. They were smart enough to bring other girls with them (or often guys they trusted).
My point is that groups are always better -- stay with a fricking group. Stop going out with a bunch of dudes alone and thinking that the guys wont get any ideas. If you're at a bar and a dude convinces you to go home with him, you should EXPECT that he wants sex. There's zero other reason he would want you to come back with him. Get a fricking clue.
End of rant.
Holy shite! You are actually one of those people who blame the girl? frick off dude..
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:33 pm to AUstar
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If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
Do you blame murder victims for standing where someone was pointing their gun too? I mean, if they had just been somewhere else, they wouldn't have been murdered
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 3:34 pm
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