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re: Vanderbilt pays $1.2M to remove 'Confederate' from dorm name

Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:42 am to
Posted by LSUMastermind
South Florida
Member since Jun 2008
897 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:42 am to
you clearly havent been to a lot of black communities lately?
waiting for a check?
this still happens?
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10252 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:50 am to
No I haven't lately but neither have those politicians that claim to care so much.
Posted by LSUMastermind
South Florida
Member since Jun 2008
897 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:52 am to
brooklyn, dc, even new orleans, i know a lot of black people with black businesses that are thriving. Even here in florida, my fraternity brother owns one of the biggest construction companies around.
it never makes the news.
just the cycle of violence in these communities.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 9:53 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34575 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Basically everybody and everything of historic importance took a dump on somebody or a group of somebodies.


Which is why nothing is sacred in 2016.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
5160 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:19 am to
The folks who rail against "political correctness" on this topic need a reality check. Typically, losers of wars don't get monuments. The losers are typically killed and their ideology gets scrubbed from society.

Andrew Johnson's lenient reconstruction plan would probably be criticized as "politically correct", pandering to the Southerners, too soft on the treasonous rebels. The fact that the South was allowed any kind of autonomy was a goddamn gift.

If you want to criticize the scrubbing of monuments as "politically correct", pandering to the easily-offended, you need to also criticize the merciful reconstruction that created the political climate that allowed those monuments to exist in the first place.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:00 am to
I'm thinking University of Arkansas simply doesn't have any of the deep south stuff connected to the university campus. I can't think of any symbols or buildings named for the confederacy or controversial figures.

We have a building named after the first black student enrolled. We enrolled blacks in the 1940s.

University of Arkansas was always relatively progressive in that area I guess.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8395 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:07 am to
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you have a point, but you certainly dont want to be constantly reminded of the horrors im sure.



I don't mind the reminders. It is where we came from. I am a huge history buff and I understand that not everyone is. To me, you would do more to donate that money to a cause for the advancement of black people than to pay it for the right to scrape words of the front of an almost 100 year old building. Everyone wants to hide from the past and I don't like it. When Muslims in Afghanistan destroyed the old Buddhist statues the world went in a panic. Those statues truly offended the Afghans. But I wish they had left them up anyway.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 2:01 pm to
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GnashRebel


Your subsequent comments have been reasonable. I was expecting the same old tired defense of the confederacy that is so often repeated, and then told we should "read our history". But I have no problem honoring the dead soldiers who were fighting for their homes and communities...as long as the memorial is not honoring the confederate government which was specifically fighting to defend the institution of slavery (per the "Articles of Secession" which publicly documented their cause).

But I definitely agree with you that the soldiers are not the villains, any more than the Vietnam vets were "baby killers". They should all be honored (with the exceptions of those committing war crimes, genocide, etc.)
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8395 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:24 pm to
It strikes a nerve with me. Maybe it causes me to go full a-hole. I don't want people to come in 100 years from now and start tearing down monuments to my brothers in arms because they look at the wars we fought as barbaric.
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