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Posted on 7/23/16 at 11:16 pm to RB10
Posted on 7/23/16 at 11:16 pm to RB10
Evidence has been provided. I gave you 3 examples of offensive schemes that have increased yards per carry.
Why do they do it? They have more than one legit running option that must be accounted for. The less a D can focus on a primary rb, the more room that rb should have. It's simple math.
Why do they do it? They have more than one legit running option that must be accounted for. The less a D can focus on a primary rb, the more room that rb should have. It's simple math.
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Posted on 7/23/16 at 11:21 pm to djsdawg
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Evidence has been provided. I gave you 3 examples of offensive schemes that have increased yards per carry.
1. You cherry picked one year for Auburn under Gus while ignoring the other two where their team YPC was nothing special. Coincidence?
2. Urban Meyers' Ohio State teams haven't averaged better than 5.75 YPC yet. In addition, his 2008, 2009 and 2010 teams never averaged more the 6. LSU just averaged 6.1 in 2015.
Your "schematically advantage" is looking more and more like a "better running back" advantage with each post.
ETA: I get what you're trying, and I emphasize trying, to say. You think the threat of the running QB inflates the running back's numbers for those teams. Fact is, you're wrong.
Ezekiel Elliot is the only RB with an extremely high YPC who also had over 100 carries in the season. That has much more to do with him being a top 5 draft pick than Urban's scheme.
This post was edited on 7/23/16 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:30 am to djsdawg
Chubb may be as good or better than Fournette. He's really good. You saw Fournette's numbers drop off starkly at the end of the season from 8+ ypc and 200+ ypg to 6+ and 160+ respectively. The law of great backs is that as total carries go up, ypc goes down.
It's really difficult to compare RBs because each play presents something different. They see multiple things and have multiple opportunities on each individual play. Even with common opponents, literally everything is different. You really have to look at entire careers and try to adjust for sample size, oline talent, schemes, opposing Ds etc, but even then, it's very subjective.
I haven't seen Chubb play a whole lot, but honestly, both could be top 5 all-time SEC good. I expect Fournette to finish #2 on the all-time SEC list and be within 100-200 yards of Herschel.
It's really difficult to compare RBs because each play presents something different. They see multiple things and have multiple opportunities on each individual play. Even with common opponents, literally everything is different. You really have to look at entire careers and try to adjust for sample size, oline talent, schemes, opposing Ds etc, but even then, it's very subjective.
I haven't seen Chubb play a whole lot, but honestly, both could be top 5 all-time SEC good. I expect Fournette to finish #2 on the all-time SEC list and be within 100-200 yards of Herschel.
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