I find it interesting that you guys are laying it all on Heupel when the defense was allowing 38 pts per loss the years he was OC. A large portion of the fan base couldn't wait to see Venebles leave and it seems that Mike Stoops gets a pass for his squads effort vs the better Big 12 teams.

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Posted by Sgt Deds

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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:15 pm to navynuke

Those offenses were horrid statistically on third downs every year heupel was there. The defenses were never the issue early in the games, it was 3rd and 4th quarters when OU lost games. See Baylor vs OU 2014

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Posted by CharlotteSooner

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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:26 pm to navynuke

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I find it interesting that you guys are laying it all on Heupel when the defense was allowing 38 pts per loss the years he was OC.

Venables and his staff left our cupboards empty when he left. Combine that with an average defense being stuck on the field all the time because of an ineffective offense and there you have it.

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A large portion of the fan base couldn't wait to see Venebles leave and it seems that Mike Stoops gets a pass for his squads effort vs the better Big 12 teams.

Venables never put a top 50 defense on the field during his tenure here. His defenses averaged in the low 60s. He insisted on playing a soft zone coverage 4-3 defense against air raid attacks and as a result, he couldn't recruit DBs, his secondaries were porous and known for catastrophic coverage busts, and he had LBs covering speedy WRs and getting torched as a result over and over. That's why he lost in Lubbock every year during his tenure. He was terrible here and in over his head.

Mike has stocked our secondary with elite DBs for years to come and there are no more coverage busts to be seen. He is rebuilding the defense from back to the front and the young LBs and DL are just now catching up to where we need them to be.

Venables now plays in a weak two team league and only has to gameplan for FSU which runs the same old pro style offense they ran in the 90s. The only spread offense in his league is his own team and we know the ACC is known for it's offensive firepower.