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re: Is Mississippi the Hate State?

Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:13 pm to
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And my argument is that civil and human rights take precedent when a specific group is being discriminated against.



i hear that. please don't read that i'm ok with discrimination in any way, shape, or form. i just think at the end of the day, freedom of speech extends to business practice.

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Please link me to where you've read it as such and provide context?



i take it in that the original intent of the bill of rights that government should do as little as possible to infringe on the free will or speech of people. my interpretation.

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You are saying we should allow the free market to fix bigotry, which never has happened in the history of mankind.


has government fixed bigotry?


ETA: maybe a bit of clarification. you are very clearly arguing what the law says. ( i'm not disagreeing with you. your links to CR is spot on for the discussion and where this is headed when it gets contested to the SCOTUS.) i'm arguing what the law should be.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70974 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 12:24 pm to
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has government fixed bigotry?



Of course not, but black people can now eat, drink and shop where they please. I don't expect the government to shape people's train of thought, but I do expect them to govern appropriately.

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freedom of speech extends to business practice.


freedom of speech isn't being discussed. This is about businesses in Mississippi being allowed to turn away customers.

But while we are discussing freedom of speech...there are numerous restrictions and exclusions to the 1st amendment. It is not an all encompassing amendment, and rightfully so. Do you think business should be allowed to post sexual obscenities of children in their lobby? Of course you don't, but technically, that's freedom of speech. But it is excluded.

Slander is excluded, and rightfully so. Inciting danger, etc.

This is no different. We have freedom of speech, but this isn't the wild west.

I know I've come across as combative but I know you're not a bigot or okay with discrimination. I just think we fundamentally disagree on a few things.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 12:31 pm
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