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re: USCe losing to the Citadel cost them Tom Herman

Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:34 pm to
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You can't have it both ways. You can't say that USC sucks and will always suck, and then have a very realistic ceiling tossed out. 6-9 wind per season is likely the best this program can do, barring some fundamental changes in college ball. Most of us know this well.


I'd say 8-10 wins per season is likely the best average we can hope for ... but most programs do far less. It's not like we'll accept total mediocrity after endeavoring for so long to become relevant. I, personally, will not accept consistent 6 or 7 win seasons ... but neither do I believe that will be Boom's average over time.

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USC got caught in a bad time to be looking for a head coach, and we settled for someone needing redemption. If he can bring us back to competitiveness with the occasional SEC CG berth, he'll have done his job, amd done it extremely well.


This past year realized the most coaching searches in NCAA D1 history at the end of a single season. Was it 38, or did it reach 41? I can't remember.

SCAR did fine considering the circumstances and who we were competing against to fill the position.

Mizzou ... notsomuch. Everyone is still laughing at Mizzou.

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We're Carolina fans/alums. We know about tempering expectations. But while we breathe, we hope.


We are the epitome of eternal optimists ... always have been. And Boom is going to do well. He'll be here a long long time. We want to consistently finish in the top half of the league, the top three in the East ... and that will be all any program outside of the Top two or three programs in the league can hope for.

We know mUSChamp can recruit, as can his staff, obviously.

Did he learn to be a HC while at Florida? I suspect he did - time will tell.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:40 pm to
I admire the hopefulness that ya'll have.

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Did he learn to be a HC while at Florida?


Without getting triggered, what makes you believe this? Why didn't he apply what he learned his first three years to his fourth? He'd still be at UF had he learned from his mistakes.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:48 am to
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SCAR did fine considering the circumstances and who we were competing against to fill the position.

Mizzou ... notsomuch. Everyone is still laughing at Mizzou.


I don't mind a little spin to put positivity on a situation that is unknowable, but this statement is ABSOLUTE bullshite.



At the start of their coaching search if you would have told Mizzou fans they ended up with Odom their response on the Rant would have been "welp I guess we settled" or "well he is the safe hire." I saw a few advocate that result from day one actually.

If you would have told USC fans at the start of their long search that they would have ended up with Muschamp the response would have been something like "Frick you SEC Rant in your fat frickibg face! Their is no fricking way we end up with that Florida reject!"

Point being, if we are talking APPEARANCES and fan PERCEPTION then Mizzou made a better hire given their level of expectations and fan "wisdom."

With that said I expect Muschamp to actually do better at his job than Odom because the fan wisdom is way off. Odom got the job too soon due to circumstances, and USC got a guy who can deliver what they want.

But considering the "circumstances" Mizzou ON PAPER made a better hire.
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