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re: 2004 RB depth chart was amazing
Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:43 am to beatbammer
Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:43 am to beatbammer
Idk man, the 2004 DL was immensely more talented than the 2010 OL and got to go up against the 2004 OL in practice which was just as good. Cam would make the 04 LBs look like HS kids, but the 04 DBs vs Darvin and T-Zach matchup heavily favors 04. The 2004 offense would cut through the 2010 defense like butter. I think it's 5/10 split.
I also think 2013 would matchup better vs 2004.
I also think 2013 would matchup better vs 2004.
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:02 am to BowlJackson
Gonna disagree. Were Josh Thompson, Pat Sims, Jay Ratliff, Bret Eddins, and that a-hole McClover very good?
Yes, they were.
Were they any better than some of the top DLs that the 2010 OL faced and beat? I don't think so.
IMO the most dangerous parts of the 2004 defense to what Cam did on the field were Carlos and Junior. Cam, as good as he was, could sometimes get loosey goosey with the ball in the air. Carlos and Junior would have likely made him pay for any mistake he made in that regard.
Yes, they were.
Were they any better than some of the top DLs that the 2010 OL faced and beat? I don't think so.
IMO the most dangerous parts of the 2004 defense to what Cam did on the field were Carlos and Junior. Cam, as good as he was, could sometimes get loosey goosey with the ball in the air. Carlos and Junior would have likely made him pay for any mistake he made in that regard.
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 11:04 am
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:32 am to BowlJackson
I think 2004 is a better all around team but 2010 would win by 10+.
Coaching/Scheme -
2004 had never played a HUNH offense with inverted veer/read option elements.
2010 Off vs 04 D -
It isn't just "can they handle Cam," Michael Dyer weighed more than all of the 2004 LBs and is a power runner. We had a super legit OL in 2010 coupled with a very awesome HBack in Smith.
While the AU DBs win vs our WRs, we had 3 good WRs in Zachary, Adams and Blake. I don't see them being able to defend all 3 given the disadvantage vs the run.
2010 D vs 04 Off -
Auburn's 2010 defense is one of the most underappreciated units in AU history. FEI ranked our our defensive efficiency as #8 nationally. We were #9 nationally in rush yards per game despite HUNH + playing the #3 hardest schedule by offensive rankings
The 2004 offense was ultra talented but I don't see them scoring 30+ points. I just don't see the interior OL holding up vs Nick Fairley & Clayton combo. The 2010 team averaged 3 sacks & 7.5 TFL against ranked teams.
Coaching/Scheme -
2004 had never played a HUNH offense with inverted veer/read option elements.
2010 Off vs 04 D -
It isn't just "can they handle Cam," Michael Dyer weighed more than all of the 2004 LBs and is a power runner. We had a super legit OL in 2010 coupled with a very awesome HBack in Smith.
While the AU DBs win vs our WRs, we had 3 good WRs in Zachary, Adams and Blake. I don't see them being able to defend all 3 given the disadvantage vs the run.
2010 D vs 04 Off -
Auburn's 2010 defense is one of the most underappreciated units in AU history. FEI ranked our our defensive efficiency as #8 nationally. We were #9 nationally in rush yards per game despite HUNH + playing the #3 hardest schedule by offensive rankings
The 2004 offense was ultra talented but I don't see them scoring 30+ points. I just don't see the interior OL holding up vs Nick Fairley & Clayton combo. The 2010 team averaged 3 sacks & 7.5 TFL against ranked teams.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:37 am to BowlJackson
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2004 DL was immensely more talented than the 2010 OL
This is pretty absurd considering 4/5 OL from 2010 were all conference that year and an extremely good cohesion with 150+ starts together.
Ziemba was an All American in 2010
Ryan Pugh was 1st team All SEC
Brandon Moseley was 2nd team All SEC
Bryon Isom was 2nd Team All SEC
ETA: Also keep in mind that 2004 DL went up against smaller OL. Pat Sims was 295, Ratliff 278, Eddins 265, Mcclover 255
Even if they beat the OL, Cam Newton was as big as the DL
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 11:42 am
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