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re: it looks like Heisman is a one game award and not a season award
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:37 pm to texag7
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:37 pm to texag7
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Over 300 yards
Yeah in total yards? It's almost impossible for a QB to throw under 30 yards. Besides the point you said show you a 30 yard game and I did. I guess this is off topic though.
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:40 pm to crimsonsaint
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I'd be more worried about possibly losing a shot at a SECC and NC
The odds are thats already happened, so any other talking points?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:40 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Maybe Fournette still wins because it's one of those years where there just isn't anyone deserving, but a true Heisman winner would have put his team on his back in the biggest game of the year and led them to victory
Which is why QBs usually win it. They have the ability to have those game changing moments, because the ball is in their hands on every snap. A running back requires the line to give him a chance, no matter how good they of a RB. Otherwise, they'd only gain yards on busted plays and defensive errors.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:42 pm to CCTider
Absolutely
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:43 pm to CCTider
quote:Yep. LF had no change Saturday night. He was hit behind the LOS on 18 of 19 carries. Just like Henry's performance against ULM. I gurantee you he wasnt the reason ULM stopped him
Which is why QBs usually win it. They have the ability to have those game changing moments, because the ball is in their hands on every snap. A running back requires the line to give him a chance, no matter how good they of a RB. Otherwise, they'd only gain yards on busted plays and defensive errors.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:43 pm to PepaSpray
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Henry has had a couple 200+ yd games against stiffer competition. Fournette and Henry are pretty dang close imo.
Henry also had games of:
50 yards vs ULM (13 carries) 1 TD
90 yards vs MTSU (18 carries) 3 TDs
90 yards vs Arky (27 carries) 1 TD
While Leonards worst games are:
30 vs Bama (19 carries) 1 TD
158 vs Scar (20 carries) 1 TD
150 vs WKU (26 carries) 1 TD
So looking at their worst games, LF has Henry beat 338 yards to 230 yards, though Henry has 2 more TDs.
Looking at their best games,
For Henry:
210 yards vs LSU (38 carries) 3 TDs
236 yards vs A&M (32 carries) 2 TDs
148 yards vs UGA (26 carries) 1 TD
For Leonard:
238 yards vs Auburn (19 carries) 3 TDs
244 yards vs Syracuse (26 carries) 2 TDs (87 yarder negated)
233 yards vs EMU (26 carries) 3 TDs
*180 yards vs UF (30 carries) 2 TDs* (not included in numbers below)
So in their best games, Leonard again has more yards than Henry, beating Henry 715 yards to 594 yards.. But the real kicker, Henry has 594 yards on 96 carries, while Leonard has his 715 on 71 carries in their best games.
OH AND HENRY DIDNT GO AGAINST THE BEST NICK SABAN FRONT 7 EVER.
So when you look at the numbers, Henry and Fournette are not "pretty dang close"
*For anyone who wants to say EMU is no competition, switch Florida and EMU if you like, Leonards numbers are still better across the board. IF you make the argument that EMU is no competition, realize Henry had 50 vs ULM, and 90 vs MTSU.*
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:44 pm to WilliamTaylor21
After seeing the above info,
Please. Someone make a case for Henry over Leonard.
Please. Someone make a case for Henry over Leonard.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:47 pm to WilliamTaylor21
Henry is not going to win, okay?
Henry has done it against better competition and had the best game in the biggest game.
Henry has done it against better competition and had the best game in the biggest game.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:48 pm to CatsGoneWild
quote:fournette got his yards against shitty teams. henry has played his best and gotten big yards against much better teams than fournette. 1st time he faces a real rush defense he gets 30 yards
Fournette has been the best player by far all season
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:49 pm to CatsGoneWild
He folded like a cheap suit the first time he played a defense that knew how to tackle.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:49 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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So in their best games, Leonard again has more yards than Henry, beating Henry 715 yards to 594 yards.. But the real kicker, Henry has 594 yards on 96 carries, while Leonard has his 715 on 71 carries in their best games
But Fournette had the SEC's best OL to run behind. I saw it in dozens of posts the last couple weeks. And Bama fans have been worried about our inconsistent OL all season. They manhandled LSU, but remember, we also have more allowed than almost anyone in the conference or the country. There's a high ceiling, but lots of youthful mistakes, similar to Ohio state last year. Hopefully, like OSU, they'll before an elite unit before the seasons over. But Fournette has has had much more help.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:51 pm to CatsGoneWild
It has always been a one game. Society has a very short memorie and a a was a key game for LF. He's stil a great back and we should all enjoy watching regardless of the Heisman.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:52 pm to CCTider
quote:Except he hasnt. Henry has more yards before contact than any other RB
But Fournette has has had much more help.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:53 pm to CatsGoneWild
When Dak wins it'll be because of the entire season, but also his performance in a season-defining game.
Dak
Dak
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:56 pm to stat19
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He folded like a cheap suit the first time he played a defense that knew how to tackle.
He was hit in the backfield on 13 of 19 rushes... That sounds like the O Line folded. Explain that doofus.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:57 pm to WilliamTaylor21
ok....
henry 210yards
lf 31 yards
henry 210yards
lf 31 yards
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:59 pm to CCTider
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But Fournette had the SEC's best OL to run behind. I saw it in dozens of posts the last couple weeks. And Bama fans have been worried about our inconsistent OL all session. They manhandled LSU, but remember, we also have more allowed than almost anyone in the conference or the country. There's a high ceiling, but lots of youthful mistakes, similar to Ohio state last year. Hopefully, like OSU, they'll before smh elite unit before the seasons over. But Fournette has has had much more help.
Henry would've had negative yards had he faced Bamas run D Saturday. Don't be dumb.
Henry isn't even the 2nd best back in this conference, much less the best.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:59 pm to WilliamTaylor21
of course 
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:59 pm to CajunTiger_225
That was the year after he won the Heisman.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 2:00 pm to WilliamTaylor21
quote:You are being an idiot too. LF and Henry are both beasts. LF is better, but Henry is no slouch
Henry isn't even the 2nd best back in this conference, much less the best.
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