re: I'm tired of people trying to argue the Big 10/PAC 12 are on our level

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Pac-12 has the most football, most basketball and most baseball National Titles.

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1900 - 1949 = Football MNC's
SEC (15) = 5 + 2 + 1 + 3 + 2 + 2 (not counting TAMU's 3 claimed MNC's)
PCC (11) = 4 + 5 + 2
15 > 11 | SEC is +4 here

1950 - 1979 = Football MNC's
SEC (17) = 6 + 3 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 3 + 1 (not counting Hogs 1964 claimed MNC)
PAC (7) = 5 + 1 + 1
17 > 7 | SEC is +10 here

1980 - 2015 = Football MNC's
SEC (14) = 4 + 3 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 1
PAC (4) = 1 + 3 (Not counting 2004 vacated title or 1990 Colorado title)
14 > 4 | SEC is +10 here

SHOW ME HOW THE PCC / PAC have more MNC's in football?




1939 - 1979 = NCAA M Basketball Champions
SEC (5) = 5 (all UK)
PAC (13) = UCLA 10 + Cal 59' 1 + Stanford 42' 1 + Oregon 39' 1 (Utah was not in the PCC in 1944)
13 > 5 | PAC is +8 here

1980 - 2015 = NCAA M Basketball Champions
SEC (6) = 3 + 2 + 1
PAC (2) = UCLA 1 + Arizona 1
6 > 2 | SEC is +4 here

PCC / PAC is +4 all time but the SEC is 3:1 in the modern era




1947 - 1989 = NCAA CWS Champions
SEC (0) = Missouri's 1954 CWS is not counted as they were not in the SEC at the time
PAC (18) = 1940's 2 + 1950's 2 + 1960's 3 + 1970's 6 + 1980's 5
(AZ and ASU were in Border Conference till 1978 so 65', 67', 69', 76', and 77' and not counted)
18 > 0 | PAC is +18 here

1990 - 2014 = NCAA CWS Champions
SEC (10) = LSU 6 + SC 2 + UGA 1 + VU 1
PAC (5) = OSU 2 + USC 1 + AZ 1 + UCLA 1
10 > 5 | SEC is +5 here

PCC / PAC is +13 all time but the SEC is 2:1 in the modern era

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The Big 3 - Pac-12 owns them all.

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They certainly do not own football, and their ownership of basketball and baseball are in the past. Modern history suggests the SEC owns the PAC in all 3 spots. SEC also owns Gymnastics and W Basketball. Softball is shifting to the SEC as are other sports. Sure the PAC may dominate the likes of water polo and sailing but how much revenue do they bring in.

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Most National Championships by school -

1. UCLA = 11 basketball, 1 baseball, 0 football
2. Stanford = 1 basketball, 1 baseball, 0 football
3. Southern Cal = 0 basketball, 12 baseball, 0 football

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