re: I'm tired of people trying to argue the Big 10/PAC 12 are on our level

Vegas has smart people -

And smart people go with the public perception.

tOSU and Michigan State have the lowest odds to win the National Title (and it's not about their conference being weak because you still have to win two games against the Top 4 teams in the country at the end.)

Then Baylor, Notre Dame, then LSU, TCU, then Southern Cal and then Alabama and UCLA and then Georgia.

Public perception doesn't rate the SEC above the rest anymore...neither do the pollsters. It's a fact.

We need to take our heads out of the sand and accept that tOSU and our bowl record last year has shifted the landscape.