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re: Alabama: 5 yards per play/Ole Miss 6.7 yards per play
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:54 pm to Patton
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:54 pm to Patton
The CB was running with the wideout until he noticed he was the only one that could keep Kelly from getting the first down on the play. So he drew up which the picture shows. If you just look at the picture, it may appear that the CB was positioned like that at the beginning of the play but that wasn't the case, he was running with the WR and only stopped to turn around and attempt to make a play on the QB. The picture captures the change in momentum of the CB.
At that time, no lineman was even beyond 2 yards past the line of scrimmage and they are all engaged in their original blocks.
Even the Safety is biting and going for the run and there is not a single lineman beyond 2 yards from scrimmage.
So what does it have to do with a lineman being downfield?
Obviously, nothing. Because no defender's action was contingent upon what arbitrary yardage a lineman happened to be downfield. So the rule is moot on this play which make the whole "illegal play" thing laughable.
Isn't the whole argument from the Alabama side "Well, our DBs only let the receiver go because a lineman was illegally downfield and if he wasn't illegally downfield our DBs would've played pass and the TD would've never happened"?
Since that's the argument, it's clear that it's simply false and Saban has just conjured it up as a selling point to shift the blame from himself.
As it stands, the lineman could've stopped right there being 2 yards beyond scrimmage and the result of the play would've been exactly the same. He happened to keep running and was around 4-5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage when Kelly released the ball, but that had no bearing on the outcome of the play. It would've simply been a lucky break for Alabama since a lineman not involved in the play kept running and drew a flag that negated the TD.
At that time, no lineman was even beyond 2 yards past the line of scrimmage and they are all engaged in their original blocks.
Even the Safety is biting and going for the run and there is not a single lineman beyond 2 yards from scrimmage.
So what does it have to do with a lineman being downfield?
Obviously, nothing. Because no defender's action was contingent upon what arbitrary yardage a lineman happened to be downfield. So the rule is moot on this play which make the whole "illegal play" thing laughable.
Isn't the whole argument from the Alabama side "Well, our DBs only let the receiver go because a lineman was illegally downfield and if he wasn't illegally downfield our DBs would've played pass and the TD would've never happened"?
Since that's the argument, it's clear that it's simply false and Saban has just conjured it up as a selling point to shift the blame from himself.
As it stands, the lineman could've stopped right there being 2 yards beyond scrimmage and the result of the play would've been exactly the same. He happened to keep running and was around 4-5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage when Kelly released the ball, but that had no bearing on the outcome of the play. It would've simply been a lucky break for Alabama since a lineman not involved in the play kept running and drew a flag that negated the TD.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:58 pm to SECRantLurker
The rule says you can't be over 3 yards downfield. Your center was and it doesn't matter why. Illegal play.
Something tells me the next time Freeze pulls that play he will get flagged. Malzahn too.
Something tells me the next time Freeze pulls that play he will get flagged. Malzahn too.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:04 pm to SECRantLurker
I never made that argument. You are typing an awful lot to make pretty simple points. How far past the Los was any OM linemen when Kelly let go of the football? More than 3? Less than three? That's all that matters. You keep bringing up these strawman arguments that I haven't made in this thread or on this website since the game ended. They mean literally nothing.
Ok so he was more than 3 yards beyond the line when Chad let go of the ball. So if I'm not mistaken a flag could have been thrown on the play for ineligible receiver down field. Right?
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He happened to keep running and was around 4-5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage when Kelly released the ball, but that had no bearing on the outcome of the play. It would've simply been a lucky break for Alabama since a lineman not involved in the play kept running and drew a flag that negated the TD.
Ok so he was more than 3 yards beyond the line when Chad let go of the ball. So if I'm not mistaken a flag could have been thrown on the play for ineligible receiver down field. Right?
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 11:06 pm
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