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How I see our game going

Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:53 am
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:53 am
Yes, someone has indeed granted me access. I hope this doesn't cause too much consternation, but getting good football discussion out of the Rant is like pulling teeth.

Anyway, I think both UF and Tennessee are easily taking on the best defenses they have faced to this point coming up on Saturday. Though UT has some weapons on offense, the offensive line and tight play calling are both a hindrance, and Florida has a monster DL that will only magnify those problems.

I honestly think the winner is the team that makes the fewest mistakes, and given that Florida has such a decided psychological advantage over UT, plus the fact that the game is in the Swamp, I think the Gators will avoid too many costly mistakes on offense while simultaneously forcing key turnovers against the Vols.

The only way Tennessee could win would be scoring on defense or special teams, which is unlikely. The Vols, in my opinion, still don't think they can win a game like this. I think that goes for the players and the coaches, for what it's worth. Jones will coach tight and it will backfire as it is wont to do.

I'm taking the Gators 17-10. The defense is nasty and will carry Florida in this and other games this year, perhaps to some surprising upsets.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:14 pm to
You bastard. That was an entirely well thought out and reasoned post. I'm not sure what to do.

Honestly, I don't see how our Offense scores 17 with our OL. We can't make running lanes.

Fewer mistakes will indeed be key. We have to get you guys in lots of third and longs AND keep Dobbs from breaking loose.

Same thing holds true for UT though. Both teams are similar in lots of ways. I'd feel much better if this were year 2 of the new coaches but it's not, so I don't.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:31 pm to
Well thought out and presented. I like our chances but we have to limit mistakes on offense and not give up big plays on defense.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:39 pm to
No idea what is going to happen in this game, just like last week and it kind of makes it fun. Should be a good game.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:46 pm to
I am really, really worried about this game. But...even Muschamp won. I mean, really, that's saying something.

The problem, though, is that I feel Tennessee is a better team this year than they've been in a while. They will be motivated.

Grier makes mistakes, Treon comes in to save the day.





Book it.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:55 pm to
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They will be motivated


The same thing is said about UK and UT every dang year.

That's highly overused.

I feel pretty good at home against them this year. Last year, I didn't.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

I am really, really worried about this game. But...even Muschamp won. I mean, really, that's saying something.


Right? Muschamp came across as something of a caveman. Actually, he was like an unfrozen caveman coach who was all, "I'm just a caveman. Your ways frighten and confuse me." And for some reason it made our coaches go all wobbly and crap their pants.

I mean, if we couldn't beat that guy...

I think Tennessee has the talent to win, but not the mental fortitude. I think Florida knows how to win and expects to win, and I don't think you can discount that in a game like this.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:58 pm to
Scores dont have to be the product of your offense guys. I want to point out that we only really scored 7 points against UK on offense...Hargreaves 53 yd interception return set up the other.

Defenses can make scores through short fields and special teams ditto. The special teams concern me more than our OL to be honest. The OL has some talent and can hold their own in pass blocking....the problem is run blocking when 7 guys have to be accounted for.

We sacked UK six times and if we sack Smoothie even 5 times we win imo. The UT run game is not as good as some think...I watched a lot of UT-Bowling Green and they have one of the worse defenses in the country and poor tackling skills (offensively their QB is leading the country in passing I think...which explains why they put up big numbers on UT)....Hurd & Kamara bounced off tacklers all day. OU is a better stat and they didnt run all that great.

The truth is this: our defense is lethal...they smell the blood already that will be in the water when UT cant run and Smoothie is exposed. There is no way to block 1 on 1 with # 90 Bullard and # 14 is quick to make OL look foolish. This is where we win the game hopefully...by making Smoothie fumble and making him color blind. The team that rushes for most yards wins and UT will lose rushing yds via sacks...we will keep pounding the middle of the DL and try to get yardage and with QB keepers. Grier can make folks miss in the open field.

Home field is huge...if this were played at Knoxvegas..Id predict UT. The crowd will erupt if we get first downs, sacks, tackles for loss and of course fumble recoveries and scores. Very very hostile.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:58 pm to
If this game was in Knoxville, I would really like UT to win. But in the swamp. where UF generally plays better, against a young UT team that I doubt plays as well on the road - I like Florida in a Clooooose one.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

The same thing is said about UK and UT every dang year.

That's highly overused.


I think being highly motivated matters when you are significantly better than the team you're playing. When you're even or worse and facing a long losing streak like UT and UK, you tend to get in your own head and make mistakes. I think Tennessee will just be wound tight. I mean, they were last year with seemingly everything in their favor. I'm not sure how that changes in a road game in Gainesville.

I think Tennessee is arguably, ARGUABLY, the better team talent wise. But even if they are, it's a really small gap, so I think advantage home team.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:14 pm to
These close games are causing me to have silver hair damn it.

Cant wait to see us on the field again. Love watching the defense. # 90 Bullard is lightning quick...from the snap of the ball the QB has maybe 1 to 1.5 seconds before Bullard is in his grill if he has pass rushing duty. MacCallister # 14 usually takes a second longer as he is matched up with OT and goes around him...if he can get inside of the OT then he will be in QBs grill quick.

Just dont get upset that we keep running up the middle with little success. You have to keep defenses off Grier.
This game could be high scoring if a team gets fumbles, picks, returns to get 2 score lead. We wont abandon our gameplan if its still early and we are behind. You know our defense can shut them down if we dont hand the ball to them on offense.

When you have the luxury of a special defense you can get more snaps and target the score because you know your defense will keep it there. If we are behind 2 scores in the fourth qt...thats different, its time to start throwing more.

Just remember that Towles was 8 out of 24 passing. He and Smoothie are very close in talent level. He had defenders all over him and along with six sacks he was off target.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

I think being highly motivated matters when you are significantly better than the team you're playing. When you're even or worse and facing a long losing streak like UT and UK, you tend to get in your own head and make mistakes. I think Tennessee will just be wound tight. I mean, they were last year with seemingly everything in their favor. I'm not sure how that changes in a road game in Gainesville.

I think Tennessee is arguably, ARGUABLY, the better team talent wise. But even if they are, it's a really small gap, so I think advantage home team.


I think like with UK, this is one of the best chances for Tennessee to end the streak. It's not overused, Kentucky has given us their best shot the last two years and nearly beat us both times. Tennessee is ready for some respect, they're recruiting well and have a pretty good team to be honest.

The team who wants it more will win, and Florida came out a bit flat-footed against Kentucky.

I think the Swamp, however, is the best factor for Florida at this point.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 5:25 pm to
I think we had a significantly better shot last year, and I think that's reflected by a serious tapering of excitement from Tennessee fans.

I've made this point to my big orange friends before, but if we couldn't beat a Muschamp-led team at home when the fans were starved, Neyland was checkered, and the hype train was off the rails, I don't think we can come into the Swamp and win.

Tennessee will beat Florida eventually, but as long as Jones is head coach it won't be until we have a complete, veteran team with a lot of depth. We're good enough to win now, but I think the mental blocks are still too much to overcome.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

I think we had a significantly better shot last year, and I think that's reflected by a serious tapering of excitement from Tennessee fans.

I've made this point to my big orange friends before, but if we couldn't beat a Muschamp-led team at home when the fans were starved, Neyland was checkered, and the hype train was off the rails, I don't think we can come into the Swamp and win.

Tennessee will beat Florida eventually, but as long as Jones is head coach it won't be until we have a complete, veteran team with a lot of depth. We're good enough to win now, but I think the mental blocks are still too much to overcome.


The Muschamp point is pretty spot on.

If you get outcoached by Muschamp, there are some serious problems.

I dunno, I think Tennessee has a pretty good chance this year, but it could also be the game Florida wakes up and performs on Offense.

It's going to be a bumpy ride, I know that.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:19 pm to
I can agree I am very worried about this game. If Tennessee gets motivated properly, it's going to be very hard to beat them.


I think the biggest concern for either team is OUR kicking game. This game may be more about field goals than anything else. And that is very worrisome for us.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:25 am to
Motivated only works so long. When # 90 buries your QB a few times and you cant get your offense untracked after end of the 1st qt...then the steam escapes. UT will have their fans drown out by 85,000 Gators including me. Will be a great game with 90,000 on hand to watch and CBS.

Offense will do enough to move the ball and keep time of possession at least even. What Id like to see is a few turnovers by our defense early (like last week...only more). We need to control the game....get up by ten points and stick to running 65% of the time...play it safe and let defense get us short field to launch one.
Would be nice to have short passes turn into breakaways, but hell Im happy now to just see them catch the ball.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:23 am to
quote:

This game may be more about field goals than anything else. And that is very worrisome for us.


For us, too. Our field goal kicker has been extremely shaky to say the least.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12818 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 4:45 pm to
This should be a great game. Both OL don't seem to be very good but both DLs seem to be good so the QBs should be running for their life. I have a hard time picking UF with the way the OL has been run blocking. Seems like a toss up to me.
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

For us, too. Our field goal kicker has been extremely shaky to say the least.


He cant be worse then Hardin.
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