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re: Former Ole Miss student who placed noose on James Meredith statue gets prison

Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:37 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:37 pm to
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Perhaps even with the terroristic threat side of it.


People keep throwing this around and it's absurd.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:40 pm to
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People keep throwing this around and it's absurd.

He didn't specifically threaten anyone, true. But it was close enough to aggravate the nature of his crime and give the judge are reason to give a harsher sentence. I think that is what he was trying to say.
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:42 pm to
This a-hole was from Georgia. Mississippi always gets painted with a broad brush when stupid rednecks do things. His sentence makes a statement to those contemplating this kind of foolishness in the future. James Meredith visits the campus often, signs his books and lectures. This fool's gesture was definitely hateful, and he got what he deserved. If you disagree:
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 11:43 pm
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6874 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:43 pm to
Good, frick him



This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28895 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:47 pm to
In modern America, the word connotes something that is entirely different than what you are referring to.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:50 pm to
A "terroristic threat" is a crime by itself, at least here in Texas. I suspect that was the point he was making, but it has to be a threat to a specific person, which this was not. That's what I was saying.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:50 pm to
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His sentence makes a statement to those contemplating this kind of foolishness in the future.


That's the thing though. A conviction and sentencing should be looked at with impartiality regarding the crime and the offender. The justice system doesn't exist to send a broader statement about sociopolitical issues, and it doesn't exist to protect the reputation of a state school, or the judge himself.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 11:51 pm
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:53 pm to
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That's the thing though. A conviction and sentencing should be looked at with impartiality regarding the crime and the offender. The justice system doesn't exist to send a broader statement about sociopolitical issues, and it doesn't exist to protect the reputation of a state school, or the judge himself.


Sociopolitical issues, no. Deterring crime. Absolutely. Don't kid yourself. That is exactly the intent and purpose of the justice system. To send a message.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28895 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:57 pm to
Correct, deterring crime. But some of these insecure Ole Miss fans look at it as a violent arm by which to achieve their selfish goal of protecting the image of their school.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:58 pm to
.......and, frick LSU.
Posted by tFearIsReal
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2015
2533 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:00 am to
He'll probably have one of those American History X moments in prison. I look forward to seeing a biopic of his memoir.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:03 am to
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Yes, but it wasn't like he burned a cross on some individual black person's lawn. That would be a threat given the history of our country. This kid was drunk and did something stupid. No individual black person was threatened. Given that burning the American flag in front of veterans is considered speech protected by the First Amendment, this action would be too. Again, political correctness gone amok. Someone should talk to this kid; he doesn't deserve to go to prison for 6 months.


I'd buy the drunk and stupid excuse if he spray painted something or even if he cut part of the statue off- but the dude brought props, that's not a drunken mistake that's planned.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:17 am to
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PygmalionEffect

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In addition to his parents not having a lot of money or knowing anybody of influence in the law enforcement community. Special emphasis on that last comment.


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AU4real35

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Sad, but very true statement.


Arkansas gonna kick aubarn's arse in Fayetteville.

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AU4real35

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Sad, but very true statement.


This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 12:19 am
Posted by BradPitt
Where the wild things are
Member since Nov 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:20 am to
That's fricking stupid (not the crime, the punishment). I bet there was a lot of outside pressure from that hypocritical piece of dog shite Al Sharpton. What a fricking joke.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10276 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:28 am to
Wouldn't you consider spray paint and/or a saw a 'prop' too?
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
2864 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:37 am to
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Sociopolitical issues, no. Deterring crime. Absolutely. Don't kid yourself. That is exactly the intent and purpose of the justice system. To send a message.


Yes, that worked so well with the death penalty. Thank God that ended murder in this country. I'm sure there will never be an incident in Mississippi of racial hatred again after this message that was sent. Ridiculous. That is not what the justice system was set up to do. If you believe that's its purpose, you are the one kidding yourself.
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 8:24 am
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
39466 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 3:05 am to
This sentence is bullshite.

Violent black criminals get more chances and less time.
Posted by murfvol
Member since Apr 2015
137 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:49 am to
Hurting someone's feelings is not the same as hurting someone. His speech should be protected, even if heinous.

Government does not get to decide what's o.k. to say, and what is not. If he threatened a specific individual, then we have laws which apply.

Debate whether he committed vandalism, not whether his statement was acceptable.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32654 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 6:32 am to
This thread has been quite entertaining. That ole bro is gonna have one hell of a time in prison. I'm not sure how familiar any of you are with prison, I took a corrections class at UA and it scared the fricking shite out of me. Being a little white kid who is in there for a racist crime is not a good thing for his butthole. He's gonna either be raped and assaulted daily, or be put in solitary. Solitary for six months might literally drive him insane. If his appeal fails I'd bet he seriously considers committing suicide.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 7:09 am to
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I'm sure they got 6 months.




Well, that is different. They are not guilty of being White.

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