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re: Worst ref calls that went against your team

Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:00 am to
Posted by OldSulRoss
Member since Aug 2011
317 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:00 am to
ARTICLE 15. All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down. This does not apply to a ball carrier, including a potential passer, who is inside the tackle box (Rule 2-34). Note that the tackle box disintegrates when the ball leaves it.

Rule 9-1-15. Jersey vs. pads is immaterial to the rule.



What I see there is Frost diving for Manziel, catching him by the jersey collar with is left hand, begin pulling him down, and catching Manziel on the right arm/shoulder with his right hand to complete the tackle.
Posted by AaronB4Mizzou
Columbia, MO
Member since May 2015
166 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:15 am to
Some 5th down background/info:

1. Happened in 1990, Bob Stull was coach
2. Mizzou had just hammered Arizona State, & with the correct officiating against CU, would have been ranked.

To this day, I think had the calls gone correctly, Mizzou would have gone on to a winning season and Bob Stull would be considered a hero for turning things around. He had a seriously talented coaching staff. As it was, Stull ended up getting fired a couple of seasons later & Mizzou would go until 1997 to get that winning season.

3. CU: was coached by Mizzou alum Bill McCartney, who played under Dan Devine. Mizzou alum and former Northwestern & CU coach Gary Barnett was also on that staff.

4. Yes, there were five downs, but Johnson didn't even score on the 5th down. He was flat on his back at the 1/2 to 1 yard line when he stuck his arm over the goal line. Ruled a TD.

5. CU shared the national title that year.

Other: Mizzou Vs Bugeaters (NU) 1997:
1. Game was a great game, back & forth, tight throughout.

2. NU scored on the "flea kicker". Pass got tipped, bounced off of the NU receivers foot, who later admitted that he kicked the ball up into the air on purpose, and caught for the TD.

3. Should have been a flag for the kicking

4. Mizzou, with the loss, actually moved into the Top 25.


Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26177 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:19 am to
quote:

ARTICLE 15. All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down. This does not apply to a ball carrier, including a potential passer, who is inside the tackle box (Rule 2-34). Note that the tackle box disintegrates when the ball leaves it. Rule 9-1-15. Jersey vs. pads is immaterial to the rule. What I see there is Frost diving for Manziel, catching him by the jersey collar with is left hand, begin pulling him down, and catching Manziel on the right arm/shoulder with his right hand to complete the tackle.


Yea, it definitely doesn't matter whether he got the jersey or the pads, the result is the same.
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