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Is Christian Kirk going to play over some of the older guys?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:09 pm
Reading some high praise on him and wondering if he is set to be a guy who passes some of the older players?
Pope comes to mind. I looked up his stats from last year and he had a decent SO year with 30 catches. Reynolds of course comes to mind, as he's a stud. I 'm not asking about who will be starting, I'm more referring to who is going to get more balls thrown their way. From what I've read, it seems like Kirk will prob get more opportunities than Speedy even did as a TF.
LSU DBs vs aTm WRs should be fun to watch.
Pope comes to mind. I looked up his stats from last year and he had a decent SO year with 30 catches. Reynolds of course comes to mind, as he's a stud. I 'm not asking about who will be starting, I'm more referring to who is going to get more balls thrown their way. From what I've read, it seems like Kirk will prob get more opportunities than Speedy even did as a TF.
LSU DBs vs aTm WRs should be fun to watch.
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:11 pm to cas4t
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:14 pm to Pitch To Johnny
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:18 pm to cas4t
Kirk is a stud doing everything right. Luckily our system isn't too hard to pick up for WRs so we can have freshmen contributors. We will have to see though, we all loved RSJ and he hasn't panned out.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:18 pm to cas4t
your guess is as good as mine.
not only will a&m wrs v lsu dbs be fun to watch with kyle allen coming along, but i think with brandon harris maturing, especially by the end of the season, it'll be fun to watch the a&m dbs v lsu wrs.
this season is going to be a good test on how far our depth on defense has come along, coupled with a new scheme/coach.
also interested to see how steele does. he seemed to do a decent job in 07 at bama given the ineptitude of the bama offense that year. so at least i would guess he won't waste talent.
not only will a&m wrs v lsu dbs be fun to watch with kyle allen coming along, but i think with brandon harris maturing, especially by the end of the season, it'll be fun to watch the a&m dbs v lsu wrs.
this season is going to be a good test on how far our depth on defense has come along, coupled with a new scheme/coach.
also interested to see how steele does. he seemed to do a decent job in 07 at bama given the ineptitude of the bama offense that year. so at least i would guess he won't waste talent.
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:18 pm to Pitch To Johnny
I think Kirk will see more balls thrown his way than Speedy did as a Freshman. Speedy was extremely raw, whereas Kirk is coming in fairly polished.
Obviously SEC ball will be a much bigger jump than high school, but from everything I've seen, he could have a pretty significant year. Clean routes, fast, and a film junkie. However, as you said, there are several other guys that will receive a lot of love as well.
Obviously SEC ball will be a much bigger jump than high school, but from everything I've seen, he could have a pretty significant year. Clean routes, fast, and a film junkie. However, as you said, there are several other guys that will receive a lot of love as well.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:20 pm to cas4t
Yeah I said I believe he would be the starting slot receiver, started eating again, and realized you literally said that wasn't what you were interested in knowing lol.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:20 pm to cardboardboxer
i think the more talent we put on the field will give rsj the kind of matchups he can take advantage of.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:29 pm to Pitch To Johnny
I saw on a depth chart that he was given the nod as a starter. But yall will rotate a lot so figured starting didn't necessarily mean getting a lot of balls thrown his way. I've watched some youtube stuff on him and he's a flat out baller.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:30 pm to BadAgg7
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:31 pm to BadAgg7
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so at least i would guess he won't waste talent.
this is all we are really asking for, TBH. Talent is there, and in large numbers. Steele and Brandon Harris are viewed similarly...just don't frick up drastically.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:34 pm to cas4t
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Pope comes to mind. I looked up his stats from last year and he had a decent SO year with 30 catches. Reynolds of course comes to mind, as he's a stud. I 'm not asking about who will be starting, I'm more referring to who is going to get more balls thrown their way.
Pope, Speedy and Reynolds are outside receivers and Kirk is inside. They really aren't competing much and how they are used is fairly different.
Kirk is playing the Y which is the spot Malcome Kennedy has occupied the last 2 years and Ryan Swope before that. It's the "high catch" position. Lot of 5-year outs and stick routes. Y-stick is one of our staple plays which is an option to a TB inside zone play or a 5-yard pass to the Y.
The LB in that picture creeped inside before the snap and so Swope ran a 5-yard stop pattern and Manziel drilled it into him after faking the handoff.
This play alone can wrack up 2-3 catches per game for the Y. I think Swope had 6 catches in that '12 Bama game on that play alone. It's essentially an extension of the running game. If the safety doesn't come down in time or he misses the tackle it can be a big play but the goal is to easily pick up 4-5 yards.
Speedy plays the X which is the guy on far left and it's the deep ball position. He'll catch fewer balls but the route tree is much further down the field so his APC should be higher (this is the same position Pope plays). Reynolds plays the Z which is at bottom and is the primary much more often than X. So I guess, yes, expect Kirk to catch far more balls than Speedy did last year.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:44 pm to tmc94
Weren't we playing RSJ "out of position" last year? He's supposed to be the Z but we played him as a Y? Was that the deal?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:46 pm to tmc94
Interesting. So Kirk is a "yards after catch" kinda player for yall?
Film I watched was really just routes and drills. He pretty physical?
Film I watched was really just routes and drills. He pretty physical?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:52 pm to cas4t
We are absolutely stacked at wide receiver. We will give fits to everybody.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:59 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Weren't we playing RSJ "out of position" last year? He's supposed to be the Z but we played him as a Y? Was that the deal?
RSJ played Y as a fish and H as a redshirt fish. He'll play H this year. We like him inside where he plays kind of a hybrid TE role with his big body.
I don't think he'll ever play Z for us but yeah, I do think that was the initial thought when we brough him in. Ratley is competing with Nacho for 2nd team Z
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:06 pm to cas4t
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Film I watched was really just routes and drills. He pretty physical?
Yeah he played RB and WR and CB in high school. He's only like 5'10" but he's actually pretty thick. I wouldn't call him a physical player but more the type that never takes a clean shot. He's a very smooth athlete
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:18 pm to tmc94
Yall have no shortage at WR. It's pretty unreal, actually.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:24 pm to cas4t
It definitely seems like they're expecting a big contribution from him this year. Everything out of camp has been extremely positive about him
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:27 pm to tmc94
Speaking of RSJ, any word out of camp about whether he's been more physical?
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