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re: Alabama Basketball: 2016 (and beyond) Recruiting

Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:29 pm to
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There is a reason he transferred to Samford


If Retin left after his junior year, he would've likely been headed to a similar school. Just because someone transfers to a mid-major doesn't mean they belong there.

It's pretty harsh to judge a 5'10 PG for not living up to expectations in his first 2 years. Short PGs always have the roughest transition to the college game. I'd be surprised if Coleman didn't have a stat line of 15+ ppg and 4+ APG before the end of his career.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:42 pm to
How great would it be if Alex Reese just went ahead and committed tonight? Lol. I would be so happy. That would kickstart our 2017 class the right way and other top talent would follow hopefully.
Posted by RedElephants
Pittsburgh Steelers Fan
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 7:05 pm to
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If Retin left after his junior year, he would've likely been headed to a similar school. Just because someone transfers to a mid-major doesn't mean they belong there.


Exactly. I mean Collins transferred to Morehead after his first year at LSU.

Look, I'm not saying that Collins is a bad thing. I'm excited about the addition...but he will be here for just a single season. If you look at the stats, Coleman and Collins had nearly mirror image stats from their first 2 seasons. As a SO, Collins averaged 1 more point than Coleman playing in the OVC while JC avg'd 1 more assist while playing a min less per game.

My point is that discarding a player based on first and year stats is silly. Look at the way Jamareo Davidson improved over his tenure: he didn't have a great low post game when he got here but ended up being really good on the block and his midrange improved drastically. Who's to say JC wouldn't have improved his ability to finish at the rim?

If I have a choice between Collins in only 16-17 and Coleman for 2 more years, I go Coleman every time. Maybe that's just me, and I could be completely off here.

And for the person that said Riley Norris is overrated...maybe his play isn't the best or flashiest, but nobody on the team gives more effort than that guy.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:13 pm to
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If Retin left after his junior year


Retin was already a great athlete. He just had to refine things in his game to hit another level. Coleman would have had to make a very significant jump at his size to really turn in to an awesome player. He largely lacked all of the go to moves required to be awesome at that size. Floaters, pull up jumpers, etc.

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Just because someone transfers to a mid-major doesn't mean they belong there.


Samford is a lower level than that.

I had a teammate go and play there. It was nearly impossible to even check in on how he was playing because of the lack of coverage.

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I'd be surprised if Coleman didn't have a stat line of 15+ ppg and 4+ APG before the end of his career.


Or he could have continued to play behind Dazon and all of the other guys we are going to try to recruit to that position.

I'd rather Avery continue to try to recruit awesome players more so than hope some of these guys just figure it out down the road.
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