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Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted by mattytiger123
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:36 pm
What do you Florida fans expect out of the Quarterback spot? Do you expect the defense to progress, take a step back, or stay the same? What are some reasonable expectations for your place in the east this coming season?

Just curious because all I hear about is Tennessee and Georgia
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:44 pm to
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Just curious because all I hear about is Tennessee


That's because Serreneaux lives for tRant. It's likely the home screen on his Dell PC's Internet Explorer.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:47 pm to
McElwang is going to make Grier a competent QB. I expect Florida to be above average at the skill positions but their OL situation is going to hurt them when they play Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, and FSU.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:49 pm to
Not a Florida fan, but not much is expected from Florida this season. They might struggle to make a bowl game.

Thus, you hear more about TN since their is a ton of young talent on that roster. If Butch can not coach up that talent then he has no business being a head coach at a P5 school.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:51 pm to
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That's because Serreneaux lives for tRant. It's likely the home screen on his Dell PC's Internet Explorer.


Nah, Serraneaux posts too much to be using IE. He's got to be a Chrome or Firefox man. Maybe Opera or Safari.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

What do you Florida fans expect out of the Quarterback spot? Do you expect the defense to progress, take a step back, or stay the same? What are some reasonable expectations for your place in the east this coming season?

Just curious because all I hear about is Tennessee and Georgia


Not a Florida fan but I can answer some of this:

-Most expect Grier to win out as the starter at QB. He redshirted last year and def. has an arm on him but he's green as hell and may have problems staying upright due to their OL.

-Their defense should be about the same, particularly the secondary.

-I don't know about their expectations but their biggest Achilles' heel is that they have a nightmare oline situation. They have 5 scholarship players on OL (a few freshmen OL will arrive for summer/fall to help but they are freshmen despite being top prospects).

Like Tennessee last year, they are replacing their entire OL with players who have little or no actual experience and like us they will very likely have to play true froshies on the OL. That did not work out well for us because OL is a developmental position and I'd be surprised if UF doesn't have similar problems because of it -- the whole offense is dependent on the OL to function.
This post was edited on 5/16/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:07 pm to
I see him as more of a Navigator kind of man.
Posted by Blob Seger
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:11 pm to
Isn't a lot expected from Del Rio's kid? Could he be in the mix this fall?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44837 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:14 pm to
Damn if anyone can get that kinda rig to still function enough to post a lot on the web more power to 'em.

Seriously Navigator was sooo cool back in the day. It had some great features. *wipes a single tear of nostalgia from cheek*
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:29 pm to
The CEO of Netscape was an Ole Miss alum and namesake of our honors college for the longest time. Not really something to brag about anymore
Posted by mattytiger123
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Not a Florida fan but I can answer some of this:

-Most expect Grier to win out as the starter at QB. He redshirted last year and def. has an arm on him but he's green as hell and may have problems staying upright due to their OL.

-Their defense should be about the same, particularly the secondary.

-I don't know about their expectations but their biggest Achilles' heel is that they have a nightmare oline situation. They have 5 scholarship players on OL (a few freshmen OL will arrive for summer/fall to help but they are freshmen despite being top prospects).

Like Tennessee last year, they are replacing their entire OL with players who have little or no actual experience and like us they will very likely have to play true froshies on the OL. That did not work out well for us because OL is a developmental position and I'd be surprised if UF doesn't have similar problems because of it -- the whole offense is dependent on the OL to function.

Cool. Thanks
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:52 pm to
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Cool. Thanks


No problem. If there's anything else just ask. I may not know the answer but if I do I'll tell ya and I'm sure if our gator posters arrive they can answer more, especially about the expectations part. A lot of UF fans I know expect this to be a rebuilding year but they should at bare minimum be a six win team, imo.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 4:47 pm to
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nebraskafaninwi
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nebraskafaninwi


You obviously arent a Nebraska fan in WI.. You're a Tennessee alter
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 4:53 pm to
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A lot of UF fans I know expect this to be a rebuilding year but they should at bare minimum be a six win team, imo.


If UF doesn't win at least 6 games this year, I will be really worried about McElwain.

There is a TON of talent, despite the inexperience. Obviously a lot hinges on the health and development of the offensive line.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 5:40 pm to
QB situation is going to be better than last year. Mostly because of coaching, we all assume, but also because both QB's have decent talent, and the skill positions look better than they have in recent times.

Offensive line is obviously the biggest weakness. The two best linemen on the team are David Sharpe - a solid LT, big, athletic (6'6, 350) but only a sophomore and Trip Thurman, a RS JR.

Trip Thurman is the most experienced guy and he'll play center. Solid player. He has injury issues though, so durability is a question. They'll probably have a true freshman starting at RT in 5* Martez Ivey.

The guard positions should be OK. Andrew Mike will play one - he is a 2nd year guy, RS Fr, and the other will probably be Antonio Riles, a RS So. Can't get much worse than Tyler Moore was the past few years. But this idea that UF will be starting multiple true freshmen and a walk-on like UT last year is a dream. if Desir-Jones or someone other than Ivey is good enough to start day one that would a surprise, and would be a good sign for UF, who just needs a couple freshmen to step up for depth.

RB is OK with Kelvin Taylor and Adam Lane. Adding Scarlett was a big recruiting win for UF, and he will contribute right away. A solid unit if they get any blocking at all.

WR position is best it's been in years. TE is very good with Jake McGee and Deandre Goldsby. They will put up some receiving yards this year if healthy (Jake broke his leg last year and didn't play). Demarcus Robinson is going to be one of the best WR in the SEC this year. Even with the travesty on offense last year he put up 53 receptions, 810 yards, and 7 TDs. Brandon Powell has moved to slot full time and is UF's best slot WR in a while. UF needs another guy to step up. They have a few new guys coming in, but we don't know what to expect. Worton, Thompson, Showers, and Fulwood are all guys that have talent, that need to start contributing more often. Hopefully Callaway can come in and play right away. Kalif Jackson was here in the spring but is probably a year away.

The defense should be better than last year. UF had 2 sophomores (Hargreaves and Neal) and 2 freshmen (Tabor and Dawson) who played most of the minutes in the secondary last year. They gave up a bunch of bad 3rd and longs. This unit should be very strong this year. Poole and Maye add experience are both 4th year players. Poole gave up some big plays last year, and Maye had a tough season, but Poole improved late and Maye is moving back to his natural position at safety last I heard (he played a lot of nickel under Muschamp).

The defensive line is going to be very disruptive and has a lot of depth. Jon Bullard is back for his senior year and was quietly very good last year, 53 tackles, 8.5 TFL and 12 QBH. He will anchor the unit on one end while Alex Mcallister disrupts on the other side. He had 6 sacks as a back up last year, and has first round physical skills. The DT position is loaded, so UF looks to be tough against the run this year. Taven Bryan, Joey Ivie, Khairi Clark, and Caleb Brantley will play the most. LB is a little thin, but the talent is good. Davis, Morrison, Anazalone, and McMillan look like they will play the most. UF will be in Nickel a lot though.

Altogether a better unit than last year. It'll be interesting to see how they perform with different coaches.

UF has a good/great punter in John Townsend. The FG kicker is a bit of a mystery, but Austin Hardin looks to be the guy. He had an OK year last year and has a pretty strong leg.


As far as expectations - the schedule is tough. But it always is at Florida. Big deal. As bad as UF was last year with Muschamp, they were a few frick ups from being 9-2 (really 10-2). I wouldn't be surprised with 6-6, especially if injuries hit key players, but wouldn't be surprised with 10-2 either. It's not like anyone in the east looks all that beastly this year, and the west draw isn't so bad.



This post was edited on 5/16/15 at 5:49 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39333 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 5:43 pm to
I really think that McElwain is going to make that offense hum. Grier's mobility really helps and having good WRs really open everything up for perimeter runs. I think Tennessee and Florida will be competing for the best offenses.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 5:50 pm to
If UF has a good offense, they will roll through the SEC east.

It's been the only thing stopping them for years now.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12737 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 6:13 pm to
It will be a surprise if Grier isn't the starter. He is a much more talented passer Harris and he is also athletic.

I think the defense should be about the same as last year if the play calling is good then the defense could improve. Last year the defense got out coached badly a few times . Plus the offense should be better because of the play calling and that could help the defense a lot by giving them a rest more.

I would think UF finishes around 3rd or 4th in the east. With injuries to the OL it could be a real bad year and barely make a bowl game or if the team stays mostly healthy it could have a chance at winning the east if the coaching staff is even close to the hype .
Posted by TouchdownBama
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 6:31 pm to
Question Prof T. Your photo whEn was that 1960's
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44837 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 6:41 pm to
quote:


If UF doesn't win at least 6 games this year, I will be really worried about McElwain.

There is a TON of talent, despite the inexperience. Obviously a lot hinges on the health and development of the offensive line.


With your schedule that's what I expect as the absolute floor. The talent is there as you say. And I agree with you that it all depends on the OL and health. If the OL turns out to be even worse than expected I'd give McElwain a pass *as long as the team looked well coached* and you can usually tell. But then again, I don't have the emotional investment in the team y'all do and if I did I'd be upset and worried if you didn't win at least 6.
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