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Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:28 pm to
Bush isn't electable. He's no different from McCain in '08. If the establishment pushes him, they are essentially throwing in the towel to the Dems. McCain wasn't legitimate opposition to Obama in '08, and Bush won't be opposition to Clinton in '16. And while we're at it, if the presidency is just going to be a token that gets transferred from the House of Bush to the House of Clinton every 10 years or so, can we just go ahead and have a monarchy already?


Cruz is running to stay relevant in the Senate. He doesn't have a legit chance in the General Election because the media will paint him as Anti-Science and people will come out to vote against him.

Christie isn't interesting, and would cause a lot of people to vote third-party. I certainly would.

That leaves Rubio, Paul, and Walker. I'm not a big fan of Walker, cos he comes across as a Koch puppet, but I'd be OK with Rubio.

But my money (in terms of who the strongest candidate is, not who will actually emerge victorious) is Paul. I think he'd eviscerate Hilldawg in a debate, and I think she knows it, too. He has to clean up around the edges a little bit, but he could do well. If he paired with, say, a Tim Scott for his running mate, the GOP would be able to give the Dems a run for their money.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Bush isn't electable. He's no different from McCain in '08. If the establishment pushes him, they are essentially throwing in the towel to the Dems. McCain wasn't legitimate opposition to Obama in '08, and Bush won't be opposition to Clinton in '16. And while we're at it, if the presidency is just going to be a token that gets transferred from the House of Bush to the House of Clinton every 10 years or so, can we just go ahead and have a monarchy already?


While I laughed at the House Bush/House Clinton sentiment, I think Jeb is electable. He is not his father or brother. He spent a lot of time in Mexico, speaks fluent Spanish, and married a Mexican. That will resonate with latino voters if they can get that message out. He owns Florida (a key swing state) and has the machine behind him. He helped raise Florida's education system, improving over 2.5 points nationally.

The only thing holding a lot of people back is his last name.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20860 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Bush isn't electable. He's no different from McCain in '08. If the establishment pushes him, they are essentially throwing in the towel to the Dems. McCain wasn't legitimate opposition to Obama in '08, and Bush won't be opposition to Clinton in '16.


I think he's electable. McCain was a horrible candidate. He stood no chance anyway but he did himself no favors by refusing to define Obama early. Bush probably has more charisma and a better campaign organization. That doesn't mean its a certainty he would win the primary or the general, but I think he's certainly a better candidate than McCain.

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That leaves Rubio, Paul, and Walker.


Rubio - No real experience. Republicans like experience. He's going to have to build momentum early.

Walker - Doesn't matter if it is relevant, but his lack of a college degree could easily be made into a liability. He needs to get out in front of this ASAP.

Paul - Like you said, he's rough around the edges and he's an idea candidate. Idea candidates traditionally don't win. However, I think he has a lot of potential if he has the right campaign and message.


The last thing the GOP needs to do is nominate someone who can easily be made in caricature by the Democrats or media. Republicans usually get branded as either out of touch or as a hayseed.
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