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re: Grantland article (RE: Chavis, LSU, TAMU, and the SEC) SIAP

Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by derSturm37
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:08 pm to
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good coach with a lack of talent doesn't produce elite numbers

One thing the article postulated with which I (and most of us) agree is that A&M's defense shouldn't have to produce elite numbers.

Elite numbers are great but they're not winning ballgames. Producing elite numbers at LSU and not winning ballgames is why Chavis is no longer there.

In 2013 A&M was 18 points away from going 11-1 and winning the SEC West. Shave 7 points per game (turn one touchdown drive into a punt) and this would have been the case.

2014 was worse: we needed to shave 11 points per game to go 11-1 and win the West. (10 points per game to take those 3 losses to overtime).

No one is looking for elite defensive numbers here. (Though we'd certainly take them, and hope to be getting them in the future). In 2015 if we, per game, can turn one TD into a punt (or turnover) and another into a field goal then we'll do better than any of us expect.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 1:56 pm
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 3:23 pm to
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In 2013 A&M was 18 points away from going 11-1 and winning the SEC West. Shave 7 points per game (turn one touchdown drive into a punt) and this would have been the case.


I don't think you can quantify how a season turns that simply. Yes, technically had you turned one touchdown drive into a punt per game, all else equal you go 11-1. But you don't take into account how the other team adjusts depending on the situation.

You're right that tamu doesn't need elite numbers, but it will be really hard to break the trend with the offense that ya'll run. Again, I think Chavis brings improvement, but the other "spread, hurry up, what have you" offenses referenced in the article really shows how tall of an order it is to have even a good defense with that kind of offense.

Over the last few years, here is the average final "total defense" rank of the schools mentioned in the article:

Oklahoma State: 83, highest rating of 53
Oregon: 59 with a high of 37
Baylor: 79 with a high of 27
Auburn: 78 with a high of 66 last year.

Also, take into account that Sumlin's program has yet to crack the top 100 nationally in time of possession, averaging 114 nationally in his tenure.

Granted, tamu has some good recruiting classes coming in, but that doesn't automatically translate into elite units. Over the same time span, TCU, Boise, Penn State, Wisconsin, UCF, Louisville, and Stanford (not the kind of schools you'd consider recruiting powershouses) all finished in the top 4 nationally in total defense.

The real concern for tamu, moving ahead and trying to improve its running game. Under Sumlin, they went from 11th nationally (with NFL draftee Cyrus Gray toting the rock), to 45, to 84th nationally in rushing offense. Scooping up three star RBs away from ULL likely won't change that trend. (sorry, couldn't resist).
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 3:25 pm
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