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re: Nick Saban: "Jonathan Taylor did everything we asked him to do"
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:37 am to ATLdawg25
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:37 am to ATLdawg25
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The whole downplaying the domestic violence part because it was only minor injuries - hard to defend.
Oh yea, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Pretty disgusting.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:11 am to piggidyphish
Checking in and looks like bama fans are gonna Bama...
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:19 am to tider04
tiger04, so it's all about Saban & how this affects/does not affect him. Curious if you feel the young girl who this thug punched out got "burned" in any way. She was not part of the risk taking process. She was a victim & Saban had very little to next to nothing to say about her role in this. This is all about domestic violence, which is a huge issue now across the nation in both society & every sport in the country. Yet, all Saban cared about was giving this thug a second chance. Make light of it all you want, but put your daughter/sister/wife in her shoes & let's see just how minor this it to you then.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:23 am to Keltic Tiger
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the young girl who this thug punched out
Link?
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 11:24 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:24 am to Tuscaloosa
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The hypersensitivity to domestic violence in the shadows of the Ray Rice situation is to blame, I believe
Shite
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:24 am to Tuscaloosa
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The hypersensitivity to domestic violence in the shadows of the Ray Rice situation is to blame, I believe. It's just really unfortunate all around.
Do you know that there was a witness that said while Taylor was at georgia he punched his victim several times in the face with a closed fist... The guy weighs well over 300 lbs, you do the math of it's hypersensitive..
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:29 am to AU4real35
Coutney Upshaw choked his girlfriend.
Where was the media outcry? Where was Finebaum? Where was the SEC Rant and their myriad of embellished threads?
That's my point. Since the Ray Rice ordeal, DV has become a much bigger issue than it ever has been before.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be an issue. I'm saying this situation is being blown up more than it would have been had the Ray Rice ordeal not happened. That's a fact that I don't believe many people will deny.
Nick Saban isn't a villain for allowing Taylor on the team. It's pretty shallow and silly to suggest otherwise.
Where was the media outcry? Where was Finebaum? Where was the SEC Rant and their myriad of embellished threads?
That's my point. Since the Ray Rice ordeal, DV has become a much bigger issue than it ever has been before.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be an issue. I'm saying this situation is being blown up more than it would have been had the Ray Rice ordeal not happened. That's a fact that I don't believe many people will deny.
Nick Saban isn't a villain for allowing Taylor on the team. It's pretty shallow and silly to suggest otherwise.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 11:31 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:30 am to TTsTowel
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@AaronSuttles Saban: Jonathan Taylor did everything we asked him to do.
Wow
All trolling aside, this is pretty damn pathetic. The man refuses to own his mistakes. To be fair, I didn't hear or read his other comments on the matter, so this comment could be taken out of context? Hopefully?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:30 am to ATLdawg25
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for Saban or Alabama to apologize for accepting him in the program?
Who would you like Saban to apologize to and why do you feel it's important that he does?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:31 am to cas4t
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so this comment could be taken out of context? Hopefully?
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TTsTowel
Gee... ya think?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:31 am to Keltic Tiger
Why is everyone still so mad about this thug that got kicked off the team? That was days ago. I think a thank you is in order for Saban taking one for the team and proving that this kid should not be on any team. He knew he would take heat, and did it anyway for the good of every other program. We can all move forward now, safer and wiser.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:31 am to UPT
What a cop out. Sorry that some of us would prefer to see a coach own his mistakes. It's important because it'd be the right thing to do.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:32 am to cas4t
Here's what he actually said, if you're interested:
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6:40: Saban on Jonathan Taylor: "I think it's very unfortunate that the guy came here with some very specific guidelines and zero tolerance and obviously didn't live up to that. While we've created many opportunities for players through the years, sometimes those things have worked out extremely well, we're sad to say in this case it didn't. We all take responsibility for that."
6:25: Saban said he never considered dismissing Geno Smith from the team. "There is a series of things he has to do" before he can return to the team, Saban said.
6:20: Jonathan Taylor underwent psychological evaluations, counseling and other requirements and had done a good job with all of that leading up to the incident Saturday, Saban said. "I still think he's a good person, but he has a problem."
6:17: Saban on Jonathan Taylor: "I'm not sorry for giving him an opportunity. I'm just sorry how things worked out."
6:16: Saban on Jonathan Taylor: "We certainly don't condone that kind of behaivor."
6:15: Saban: "A little disappointed in Geno Smith." Saban said Smith will be able to return to practice after he takes care of responsibilities behind the scenes that Saban declined to disclose.
6:14: Saban on Jonathan Taylor: "I'm very, very sorry how this worked out."
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:32 am to JuiceTerry
0/10
And Tuscaloosa, all TT did was post tweets.
And Tuscaloosa, all TT did was post tweets.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:33 am to cas4t
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And Tuscaloosa, all TT did was post tweets.
He knew exactly what he was doing when he started this thread and left it the way he did. He could have at least attempted to provide the context or provide direct quotes.
Here they are again...
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6:40: Saban on Jonathan Taylor: "I think it's very unfortunate that the guy came here with some very specific guidelines and zero tolerance and obviously didn't live up to that. While we've created many opportunities for players through the years, sometimes those things have worked out extremely well, we're sad to say in this case it didn't. We all take responsibility for that."
6:25: Saban said he never considered dismissing Geno Smith from the team. "There is a series of things he has to do" before he can return to the team, Saban said.
6:20: Jonathan Taylor underwent psychological evaluations, counseling and other requirements and had done a good job with all of that leading up to the incident Saturday, Saban said. "I still think he's a good person, but he has a problem."
6:17: Saban on Jonathan Taylor: "I'm not sorry for giving him an opportunity. I'm just sorry how things worked out."
6:16: Saban on Jonathan Taylor: "We certainly don't condone that kind of behaivor."
6:15: Saban: "A little disappointed in Geno Smith." Saban said Smith will be able to return to practice after he takes care of responsibilities behind the scenes that Saban declined to disclose.
6:14: Saban on Jonathan Taylor: "I'm very, very sorry how this worked out."
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:34 am to Tuscaloosa
tuscalossa, re your comment about a bad decision. Why don't you ask this thug's recent victim if that was all it was, just a bad decision. Saban's image is obviously more important here than the actual injuries sustained by the victim..as a result of Saban's "bad decision".
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:35 am to Tuscaloosa
Honestly, he should be sorry for giving him an opportunity. It's proof that college coaches put winning > common fricking sense and their own personal morals. And not just talking about Saban here.
Do you think Saban would want to give his daughter's boyfriend "an opportunity" if he had beat her up?
Would he say, "sure honey you should stay with him as long as he goes to anger management."
In the end this is all about winning, and a line should be drawn.
Do you think Saban would want to give his daughter's boyfriend "an opportunity" if he had beat her up?
Would he say, "sure honey you should stay with him as long as he goes to anger management."
In the end this is all about winning, and a line should be drawn.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 11:37 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:36 am to Keltic Tiger
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tuscalossa, re your comment about a bad decision. Why don't you ask this thug's recent victim if that was all it was, just a bad decision. Saban's image is obviously more important here than the actual injuries sustained by the victim..as a result of Saban's "bad decision".
You're attempting to blame Taylor's decision to put his hands on his girlfriend on Nick Saban.
That's disingenuous at best.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:38 am to Tuscaloosa
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You're attempting to blame Taylor's decision to put his hands on his girlfriend on Nick Saban
This sure seems to ignore that he'd done this before.
it's not saban's fault he hit her...it's sabans fault for putting him on the team. Winning above anything else. It is very clearly a bad decision by saban.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 11:40 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:39 am to cas4t
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Honestly, he should be sorry for giving him an opportunity. It's proof that college coaches put winning > common fricking sense and their own personal morals. And not just talking about Saban here.
Do you think Saban would want to give his daughter's boyfriend "an opportunity" if he had beat her up?
Would he say, "sure honey you should stay with him as long as he goes to anger management.
In the end this is all about winning, and a line should be drawn.
And you know this how?
Further, did Saban force this girl to enter into this relationship with a guy she knew had a history?
Also, would Taylor have received anger management, counseling, psychiatric therapy and evaluation, and the structure that is Bama football had he not been given a shot in Tuscaloosa? Are we as a society better off with Taylor on the streets - having not undergone those things?
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