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Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:47 pm
Count all recruits when they calculate the team rankings?
Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:48 pm to RealityIs
Just the top 20 (I believe)
Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:50 pm to RealityIs
Pretty sure that
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This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 1/17/15 at 9:07 pm to WhistlinDixie15
They do I believe but is on a curve. Go to the calculator and it will break it all down by commit.
Actually the best calculating system in use on the sites.
Scouts is too basic and doesn't value actual ranking just stars for the most part.
Rivals has some crazy formula that they leave open to tampering with the unknown variable
ESPN is well ESPN. Don't think they actually have a formula at all. Even if they did, who cares?
Actually the best calculating system in use on the sites.
Scouts is too basic and doesn't value actual ranking just stars for the most part.
Rivals has some crazy formula that they leave open to tampering with the unknown variable
ESPN is well ESPN. Don't think they actually have a formula at all. Even if they did, who cares?
Posted on 1/17/15 at 9:48 pm to dreaux
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Just the top 20 (I believe)
If that was 100% true, Tennessee wouldn't be as high as they are in the recruitment rankings. You can tell by looking at average player score for a team.
They use a formula that slowly devalues each additional recruit the larger your recruitment class gets.
You have the right idea. Your Top 20 recruits are the ones that really matter ,but you get some credit for each recruit over that.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 8:41 am to Socratics
I ran into this earlier last year when Ledbetter flipped from Bama to UGA.
Uga's score went up 20 points, but Bama's only dropped 3 points, or something like that.
The only way I could eventually figure that is because Ledbetter was only the 15th best player on the Bama list, his weighted value was alot less. On Georgia's list, he was one of the top 5 players, weighing his score much more heavily.
Kind of weird and inconsistent, I like my method better.
Uga's score went up 20 points, but Bama's only dropped 3 points, or something like that.
The only way I could eventually figure that is because Ledbetter was only the 15th best player on the Bama list, his weighted value was alot less. On Georgia's list, he was one of the top 5 players, weighing his score much more heavily.
Kind of weird and inconsistent, I like my method better.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 10:34 am to deeprig9
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Uga's score went up 20 points, but Bama's only dropped 3 points, or something like that.
Dat 'Bama bias doe!
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:04 am to deeprig9
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I ran into this earlier last year when Ledbetter flipped from Bama to UGA.
Uga's score went up 20 points, but Bama's only dropped 3 points, or something like that.
The only way I could eventually figure that is because Ledbetter was only the 15th best player on the Bama list, his weighted value was alot less. On Georgia's list, he was one of the top 5 players, weighing his score much more heavily.
Kind of weird and inconsistent, I like my method better.
Yeah, I don't understand the methodology behind all of it. You could get rid of Alabama's highest rated player, Calvin Ridley, and only lose 5.7 points from the class calculator, and he is worth 29.3 points.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:05 am to RealityIs
They all put weight on different shite so who knows wtf any of it means
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:21 am to chattabama
You wouldn't lose much total bc each recruit under him
Moves up when he leaves.
Your top recruit is worth his % rating x 30 I believe. It scales down with each recruit.
Moves up when he leaves.
Your top recruit is worth his % rating x 30 I believe. It scales down with each recruit.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 2:38 pm to chattabama
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I ran into this earlier last year when Ledbetter flipped from Bama to UGA.
Uga's score went up 20 points, but Bama's only dropped 3 points, or something like that.
The only way I could eventually figure that is because Ledbetter was only the 15th best player on the Bama list, his weighted value was alot less. On Georgia's list, he was one of the top 5 players, weighing his score much more heavily.
Kind of weird and inconsistent, I like my method better.
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Yeah, I don't understand the methodology behind all of it. You could get rid of Alabama's highest rated player, Calvin Ridley, and only lose 5.7 points from the class calculator, and he is worth 29.3 points.
Thats just how far ahead Bama's recruitment really is above everyone else. If you took top recruits from someone like Clemson it would hurt a lot more.
My theory
Individual player rankings are a measure skill and likelihood they will develop into an NFL caliber player.
Team rankings are a measure of the how much they believe those players as whole will make an impact on college football over the span of their career.
Bama has insane amounts of talent every year ,but they will never use all it. How many people in this class will ever start at Alabama? Bama's 3* recruits are far more likely to have an effect on say a team like Kansas St than they would ever have at Bama.
That why they weigh the best recruits on a team so high and devalue the lower ones.
I mean really whats the point of having every recruit at 100% value with a limited amount of starting spots.
Montrell Custis ,CB .8620 3* rating (Bama lowest rated recruit)
Is this guy statistically as likely to have an impact at Alabama as these guys. He seems destined to be a bench-warmer with talent like this.
2015
Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB .9878 5*
Kendall Sheffield, CB .9906 5*
Rico McGraw, CB .9333 4*
2014
Tony Brown, CB .9951 5*
Marlon Humphrey, CB .9940 5*
Montrell Custis might be the premier CB at UCF or a solid starter at Texas A&M. At Bama, he might not ever get playing time as a backup.
Do you guys think Montrell Custis should receive his full worth at Alabama?
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 1/18/15 at 2:55 pm to Socratics
It makes me wonder why ol Montrell Custis committed to Bama in the first place. Seems he would be better suited for a mid major program where he can get recognition.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 3:21 pm to WalkingTurtles
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It makes me wonder why ol Montrell Custis committed to Bama in the first place. Seems he would be better suited for a mid major program where he can get recognition.
I agree 100% with this statement. However, Nick Saban is the greatest recruiter in college football history. He managed to get kids to ignore the competition for playing time and buy into his system. I hope they make a documentary one day on Nick Saban system.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:54 pm to RealityIs
Hanging thread title? Geez dude, get with the program.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 6:01 pm to Socratics
You just never know about these kids like Custis, or for that matter, the 5-star guys. Bama has a few in the NFL right now that were walk-ons (R. Johnson) and 2-star guys (Arenas). Kareem Jackson (Texans) was only offered by Bowling Green, Ohio, Vandy, and the like.
The star system is so subjective.
The star system is so subjective.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:51 pm to Bham4Tide
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You just never know about these kids like Custis, or for that matter, the 5-star guys. Bama has a few in the NFL right now that were walk-ons (R. Johnson) and 2-star guys (Arenas). Kareem Jackson (Texans) was only offered by Bowling Green, Ohio, Vandy, and the like.
The star system is so subjective.
The system isn't perfect. On a Micro level, its going to have a decent amount of misses. On a Macro level, its consistent every year.
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A five-star recruit had a three-in-five chance of getting drafted (16 of 27).
A four-star had a one-in-five chance (77 of 395).
A three-star had a one-in-18 chance (92 of 1,644).
A two-star/unrated recruit had a one-in-34 chance (71 of 2,434).
Also, the majority of the star system isn't subjective. Only stuff like "instinct" "play-making" "Pocket Presence" are subjective in the system.
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