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re: Cops are Heros and they protect us.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:34 am to Dawg in Beaumont
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:34 am to Dawg in Beaumont
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The weird part is when mouth-breathers call that outlook "liberal".
That's the kind of crap that made me start to identify myself as an independent. I used to be a staunch republican, always voted conservative....but the mouth breathing, truly idiotic people have taken over the conservative movement. Now I'm not sure which is worse, the left or the right, because they both piss me off equally.
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:50 am to Spunky
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Point being, don't be a pos to law enforcement and they won't be one back.
Do you want to double down on this comment, Spunky, or do you want to back off of it a bit? Don't wager the farm on it, because I've just received the video from my arrest a few months back (after many motions filed and arguments with the solicitor for a solid two months), and I must say, it disproves your above comment completely, not that I needed the video to know that cops are the POS, 100% of the time.
As soon as the video arrived in my possession, the solicitor offered a "deal" after having refused most of my attempts at communication. He was told to go frick himself. He then countered my "go frick yourself" with an offer to completely drop the charges IF I paid $300 in "court costs". He was told again to frick himself. I am now waiting to hear back while he "communicates" with the arresting piece of shite.
They smell the lawsuit that is coming. They are scrambling. It's obvious that everyone within the "system" looks out for one another, that it is an "us against them" system. Sure, to keep up appearances, they sometimes eat their own (the worst of the worst), but if you believe for an instance that ANYONE that is "policing your behavior" gives a frick about your "rights" over and beyond their own personal safety and the need to feed their authoritarian fetishes, then you deserve the tyranny that you live in.
And that's the gist of it, really. The "people" don't get the government they need...they get the governance that they deserve, the majority dictating to the minority.
frick the police. But it may be that I make a few taxpayer dollars this time around...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:52 am to RedPants
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That's the kind of crap that made me start to identify myself as an independent. I used to be a staunch republican, always voted conservative....but the mouth breathing, truly idiotic people have taken over the conservative movement. Now I'm not sure which is worse, the left or the right, because they both piss me off equally.
Conservatism has nothing to do with calling people liberal. People should stop viewing things negatively. If you are a liberal...own it. Don't be a pussy. The same could be said of being a conservative. If someone calls you one...so be it. What you will find is most people aren't that ideological. Most people can find things about conservatism and liberalism that they can identify with and rarely do people fully support something 100 percent.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:56 am to HellRaisingDawg
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Do you want to double down on this comment, Spunky, or do you want to back off of it a bit? Don't wager the farm on it, because I've just received the video from my arrest a few months back (after many motions filed and arguments with the solicitor for a solid two months), and I must say, it disproves your above comment completely, not that I needed the video to know that cops are the POS, 100% of the time.
You smarted off to the cops? Maybe every situation you have with cops you have met with a condescending attitude because you view cops as power tripping nerds from school that are just wanting to go on a power trip. I read both of your cop stories and I'm actually surprised you thing that you think smarting off to the cops was a good idea.
You are one of those assholes that everytime he sees a cop you already have an attitude. You treat them as almost sub human. It's disgusting really.
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frick the police. But it may be that I make a few taxpayer dollars this time around...
Good stuff
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:01 am to HinesvilleThrill
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I was in Brogen's at closing time on the front porch. The place had at least a hundred people still in there. This cop said it was time to go I said, "ok" and took a long swig of my beer trying to finish. I paused for a second and tried to take the last swig.
Maybe you should have done what the frick he told you instead of attempting to .....Finish your beer. Seems simple enough.
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We then got into a verbal altercation.
And you think the cop is the problem?
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Three officers were standing over me as I sat in a booth. I couldn't go anywhere if I tried. I smarted off to one of them and next thing I knew I was yanked out of the booth with my arm halfway up my back
Smarting off to the cops is how you start your interaction with cops?
I don't know what else to say.
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A lot of cops were little bitches that got picked on growing up and now they think they are badasses just because they have a badge.
Source?????
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:01 am to Prettyboy Floyd
quote:That seems like about 99% of being a conservative means nowadays.
Conservatism has nothing to do with calling people liberal.
quote:This is very true, but unfortunately people in this country make up their mind on an issue before they even have time to think about it based on their party allegiance. Nobody thinks for themselves anymore, pretty sad.
Most people can find things about conservatism and liberalism that they can identify with and rarely do people fully support something 100 percent.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:07 am to Clam Gowder
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That seems like about 99% of being a conservative means nowadays.
And if your a liberal calling conservatives racist and the GOP (Old White People) isn't any better. It's that kind of political non sense that serves no purpose.
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This is very true, but unfortunately people in this country make up their mind on an issue before they even have time to think about it based on their party allegiance. Nobody thinks for themselves anymore, pretty sad.
I would say I am almost 100percent economically conservative with some social stances being liberal. I was completely against the affordable care act but I am for gay marriage. So I think some people can think for themselves but honestly the political environment in this country is toxic.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:07 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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What you will find is most people aren't that ideological
I completely disagree. The vast majority of the public seems to be either super ideological, backing anything that is supported by the Repubs or the Dems, or they are completely clueless about the important things going on in the world. People like us that can see the pros and cons of both conservatism and liberalism are very much the minority.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 10:08 am
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:10 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Maybe you should have done what the frick he told you instead of attempting to .....Finish your beer. Seems simple enough.
To begin with I'm not a sheep that cowers everytime a cop tells me to do something. I was doing no wrong. And I was there legally. It pissed him off that I didn't blindly follow his orders. So he can then strike me because I took a drink of beer???
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And you think the cop is the problem?
You're fricking right he was. He had no rights to put his hands on me and that's why it didn't escalate into something more because he saw that other people noticed what he did.
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Smarting off to the cops is how you start your interaction with cops?
After the way they approached me? Yep. And being a smartass gives a cop the authority to throw me up against the glass like I was robbing the place?? That's downright scary if you think so.
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Source?????
36 years of growing up and seeing guys I knew end up on the police force.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:24 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Perhaps you should not speculate, Pretty Boy, as your speculation only reveals your "authority bias".
It's the "cops can do no wrong" attitude that has DIRECTLY lead you to where you are today: a country in unrest with people "putting wings on pigs" and celebrating doing so.
IF you aren't convinced that a cop's training is extremely heavy on "personal/fraternal" safety and extremely light on the "rights" of man by now, you're wake-up call will only come when they one day turn on you.
IF you aren't convinced by now that cops only believe in "level TWO Terry stops" (yes, I'm in the know) and care frick-all about true reasonable suspicion, then you'll only learn this at a barrel of a gun when you attempt to lawfully go about your business.
IF you aren't convinced that the system looks after it's own and protects itself until forced to sacrifice someone, then you'll only learn this when falsely accused by an officer and no one will listen to you.
The biggest bootlicker I ever knew is now as anti-cop as anyone I know, after I helped walk he and his daughter through their case after she was violated by some local "public servants". Funny thing is, I was the only person that he knew that would believe that she didn't deserve what she got, because RESPECT AUTHORITY and IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG and all of that anti-freedom bullshite. She had her charges thrown out, after I wrote her up some motions.
But, she deserved it, because cops do no wrong. I know...I know.
But this guy knows, now. His Saul on the road to Damascus moment, like many others, came only when it directly affected him. The scales are oftentimes removed from the eyes only when it's too late.
Yes. frick the police.
It's the "cops can do no wrong" attitude that has DIRECTLY lead you to where you are today: a country in unrest with people "putting wings on pigs" and celebrating doing so.
IF you aren't convinced that a cop's training is extremely heavy on "personal/fraternal" safety and extremely light on the "rights" of man by now, you're wake-up call will only come when they one day turn on you.
IF you aren't convinced by now that cops only believe in "level TWO Terry stops" (yes, I'm in the know) and care frick-all about true reasonable suspicion, then you'll only learn this at a barrel of a gun when you attempt to lawfully go about your business.
IF you aren't convinced that the system looks after it's own and protects itself until forced to sacrifice someone, then you'll only learn this when falsely accused by an officer and no one will listen to you.
The biggest bootlicker I ever knew is now as anti-cop as anyone I know, after I helped walk he and his daughter through their case after she was violated by some local "public servants". Funny thing is, I was the only person that he knew that would believe that she didn't deserve what she got, because RESPECT AUTHORITY and IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG and all of that anti-freedom bullshite. She had her charges thrown out, after I wrote her up some motions.
But, she deserved it, because cops do no wrong. I know...I know.
But this guy knows, now. His Saul on the road to Damascus moment, like many others, came only when it directly affected him. The scales are oftentimes removed from the eyes only when it's too late.
Yes. frick the police.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:57 am to HellRaisingDawg
I hate the police too... They always catch me. Need to work on my GTA skills.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:01 am to Drudawg
If only it were as easy as getting a five-second paint job....
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:53 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
THE REVENUERS ARE REBELLING IN NEW YAWK CITY!!!!
If cops were worth their salt, and pro freedom, they'd have been doing this a long time ago. These numbers are quite staggering and very telling. The disconnect between "the people" and "the fuzz" is extended with each new law enacted that requires more, not less, interaction between the two in a manner that dictates one is superior to the other.
Should police want to improve their public image and fear less the repercussions that come from trampling upon the rights of man, then they should stand arm and arm with the people against tyrannical impositions of any government agency....
If cops were worth their salt, and pro freedom, they'd have been doing this a long time ago. These numbers are quite staggering and very telling. The disconnect between "the people" and "the fuzz" is extended with each new law enacted that requires more, not less, interaction between the two in a manner that dictates one is superior to the other.
Should police want to improve their public image and fear less the repercussions that come from trampling upon the rights of man, then they should stand arm and arm with the people against tyrannical impositions of any government agency....
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:00 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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then they should stand arm and arm with the people against tyrannical impositions of any government agency....
Out of curiosity....whose definition of tyrannical impostitions of any government agency should they use? I mean....you ask 100 people how far a cop should go and you will get 100 diffeent opinions. Same for laws. You have in your mind which laws are just and somebody else will have a different opinion.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:03 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
In the incident that I mentioned in Athens with the crazy cop making a show of berating me for no cause but to try and impress the 2 co-eds in his car, I responded the only intelligent way that I could to diffuse his rage. I did so knowing that any other action on my part would escalate to me being harmed physically and in jail. It was a time when camera phones were not common and I would have had zero documentation to fight whatever charges he trumped up on me. I yes sirred and no sirred him to death but with a rage in my heart that I had never felt before or since. Now....I was lucky enough two weeks later to give him a dose of cosmic retribution but that was purely luck. I mean, just as soon as I stepped into the crosswalk(with a walk sign flashing) he darted up 10 feet to cut me off. As the light changed he started like he was proceeding on and I started crossing behind him when he slammed his car in park. What was I guilty of? Where was any probable cause? Was it my greasy Longhorn work shirt that he hated? No. You and I and everyone else reading this no exactly what his motivation to become Gestapo was.
He was a hot head sociopath with a badge and a fun trying to impress two girls that were probably in his car against policy to begin with. Like you, I have been stopped before then and after for speeding tickets. Three since 96 to be exact. Every cop was polite and professional. I get there are good people doing the job and I commend them. But we can't ignore the idiots with badges and there are more of them than you might care to think.
He was a hot head sociopath with a badge and a fun trying to impress two girls that were probably in his car against policy to begin with. Like you, I have been stopped before then and after for speeding tickets. Three since 96 to be exact. Every cop was polite and professional. I get there are good people doing the job and I commend them. But we can't ignore the idiots with badges and there are more of them than you might care to think.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:24 pm to HellRaisingDawg
I would gain a lot of respect for cops if they would rebel in mass against politicians and refuse to make arrests for victimless "crimes".
The so called "war on drugs" is the main reason for disrespect of the law and law enforcers.
The so called "war on drugs" is the main reason for disrespect of the law and law enforcers.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:51 pm to Whiznot
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I would gain a lot of respect for cops if they would rebel in mass against politicians and refuse to make arrests for victimless "crim
Well, this is what appears to be happening RIGHT NOW in NYC, albeit not for any altruistic reasoning. Arrests are down accross the board in staggering percentages, simply because wings got put on two pigs. They are protesting City Hall by starving them (not hassling people and hustling money from their wallets into the public coffers.) Are they protesting the tyranny of the city/state toward the citizenry at large? frick no. They are protesting the city/state not letting them go "far enough" by ignoring the rights of the people.
They truly are pigs.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:54 pm to DawgsLife
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Out of curiosity....whose definition of tyrannical impostitions of any government agency should they use? I mean....you ask 100 people how far a cop should go and you will get 100 diffeent opinions. Same for laws. You have in your mind which laws are just and somebody else will have a different opinion.
Which is why government is a sham devised to convince people that they make a difference in their own lives whilst allowing those with the power to keep it. Brother jailing/killing brother.
To allow someone to rule you with your own consent is insane...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 4:46 pm to HellRaisingDawg
quote:Yes, and to allow someone with your own consent to lock you in jail is even crazier.
To allow someone to rule you with your own consent is insane...
I have friends who both use recreational drugs and also vote for politicians who support felony charges for users of illegal drugs. Unfortunately, my friends have been so socialized that they don't realize that they are nuts.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 5:15 pm to Whiznot
Two observations.
1. Why do Cops think just because they tell someone something the person has to do it? There is no contract between Citizens and the Police.
2. Police run around constantly acting like high speed, SOF, War Beard, Trigger Pullin', Operators...but you never ever hear of an SF guy, or PJ, or MARSOC pretending or acting like a police.
If you want an interesting example in contrast, in the most recent NSW packets, the minimum GPA for a Naval Officer to BUD's was 3.8, stellar OR's , max out and then some PT scores.
The minimum requirement for cop, was what????
1. Why do Cops think just because they tell someone something the person has to do it? There is no contract between Citizens and the Police.
2. Police run around constantly acting like high speed, SOF, War Beard, Trigger Pullin', Operators...but you never ever hear of an SF guy, or PJ, or MARSOC pretending or acting like a police.
If you want an interesting example in contrast, in the most recent NSW packets, the minimum GPA for a Naval Officer to BUD's was 3.8, stellar OR's , max out and then some PT scores.
The minimum requirement for cop, was what????
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