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re: Speedy Noil vs. Trey Quinn

Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:12 pm to
I'm sorry but this is just too good to pass up.

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I stated Malachi was ahead of speedy as a wr on espn and rivals


Actually no, no you didn't. What you stated was this:

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Why would the #1 wr in the country not be our first option? Dupre was ranked higher than SN


So basically, you said:

1)That dupre was the #1 ranked wr last year, and
2) That dupre was ranked higher than noil last year.

And both of those statements are completely false. They are not FACTS.

1)

Dupre was the #1 wr on only 1 recruiting website, espn. He was #3 on 247, #2 on rivals and #2 on scout. And above all else, on the 247 composite rankings, he was #2.

You know who was the #1 wr in the country last year? Noil. #1 on 247, NR on espn, #3 on rivals, #1 on scout. And above all else, on the 247 composite rankings, he was #1.

2)
Dupre was #30 on 247, #17 on espn, #15 on rivals and #27 on scout. And above all else, #17 on the 247 composite rankings.

You know who was ranked higher than dupre last year? Noil. #6 on 247, #7 on espn, #21 on rivals and #19 on scout. And above all else, #8 on the 247 composite rankings.

Both of those statements you made are LIES, not FACTS. I thought you only dealt in facts? Were you drunk posting again? Let's take a look at some more lies you are trying to pass off as facts:

quote:

Dupre was ranked ahead of Speedy by espn and rivals.


Lie. Dupre was only ranked ahead of noil on rivals.

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It clearly shows Malachi as the #1 wr. Deal with it


Lie. Noil is clearly shown to be the #1 wr in 2014.

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I stated Malachi was ahead of speedy as a wr on espn and rivals. These are facts.


Lie on multiple fronts.

Your original statement was that dupre was the #1 wr in the country and ranked ahead of noil. Then you narrowed the scope to include only espn and rivals.

Then you stated dupre was ranked higher than noil on both espn and rivals. Another lie. Noil was ranked high than dupre on espn.

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Congrats on getting the 7th best LA wr in the last 5 years.


This is harder to do because you have to compare people across multiple classes, but there are certainly no FACTS to backup this statement.

Noil's composites are .9951 overall rating, #1 overall WR, #8 overall recruit.

Going back 5 years would be the 2010 class. So here are all composites for the other LA wrs/possible wrs from 2010-2014.

2010: Trovon Reed: .9857, #3 overall ATH, #23 overall recruit
2011: Jarvis Landry: .9916, #2 overall WR, #14 overall recruit
2011: D'haquille Williams: .9490, #14 overall WR, #100 overall recruit
2011: Bradley Sylve: .9465, #15 overall WR, #106 overall recruit
2011: Odell Beckham Jr: .9341, #19 overall WR, #132 overall recruit
2012: Travin Dural: .8885, #46 overall WR,#365 overall recruit
2013: John Diarse: .9186, #23 overall WR, #197 overall recruit
2014: Malachi Dupre, .9915, #2 overall WR, #17 overall recruit

So no matter which of these metrics you choose to rank them with, Noil is going to be the #1 WR recruit in Louisiana in the last 5 years. Let's just go with overall rating since that is a ranking of the players overall abilities, not a comparison to other people in his class.

1. Noil
2. Landry
3. Dupre
4. Reed
5. Williams
6. Sylve
7. Beckham

So, what metric are you using to determine Noil is the 7th best wr to come out of LA in the last 5 years?

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They act like LA doesnt produce skill players as good as Speedy every year.


This is another LIE, not a FACT. Going back 15 years to 2000, only 8/15 years produced a skill position player with above a .9900 composite ranking.

2001 - Clayton
2004 - doucet
2007- McKnight
2009 - randle
2010 - Reed
2011 - Landry
2012 - Collins
2014 - Fournette, noil, dupre

53% of years is most certainly not every year.

Go open another wine cooler so you can come back with more bullshite FACTS.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145498 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:13 pm to
Woh
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42312 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:15 pm to
Good lord

Let it go

We don't care about Noil and he won't help you beat LSU
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