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re: Coaching Changes Discussion - Chief locked up, what about rest?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:49 am to cardboardboxer
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:49 am to cardboardboxer
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On this fight, all the intangibles outside of facilities are against us
what? Look I know many here are melting but I'm perplexed anyone really thinks this.
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are we really offering coaching stability?
The only thing that will derail this staff is a bad DC hire. So unless you think you suck as a DC, then yes, it's about as stable a place as anywhere.
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USC has a recruiting dominance in their region and is the closest team to an almost untapped North Carolina and Virginia
SC has never recruited on the level we are right now. And NC and VA don't add up to Houston talent, much less DFW, LA or AZ. And if SC had an advantage in those states, why aren't Sweat or Deberry, the top two area talents in years, considering them at all? They recruit SC, GA, and FL and those areas are ALL heavily contested. They touch NC to a lesser extent but not at all VA.
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Auburn has a recent national title (and a more recent national title trip) to sell
yep. That's not really a sales job you know. I mean as an incoming coach, you don't get any credit for that and in fact, it may be a negative if you really think that through. This isn't a 17yo high school kid. It's a long-tenured coach that is looking out for his future.
If you are thoughtful about the situation, there's a lot more to be gained via quick success at A&M than Auburn. Take Auburn to the playoff and Malzahn brought them back. Take A&M to the playoff and you are the reason. Both are pretty good situations honestly as both have young talent. But this isn't some obvious flaw for us
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Oh and Boom has never publicly called out either of those cities as a place he doesn't like
man you are still going overboard with a good natured shot. Muschamp has been to BCS twice I believe and both times he was coaching. He probably never set foot outside the hotel. The idea that he even has a real opinion about BCS is amusing.
I'm not at all saying we'll get Muschamp but some of y'alls reasoning is nothing more than low self-esteem
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:59 am to tmc94
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The only thing that will derail this staff is a bad DC hire. So unless you think you suck as a DC, then yes, it's about as stable a place as anywhere.
Our DC hire is going to make or break Sumlin's career, which means it will make or break the career of any DC we hire.
If I am Boom, I am not looking for a longterm job. I am looking for a place I can hangout for a year or two that doesn't hurt my chance at being a head coach for some PAC team afterwards. Our DC position has a lot of pressure tied to it, especially compared to someplace like a USC where OBC absorbs all the heat for you if things go south.
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SC has never recruited on the level we are right now.
They don't have to, they are in the SEC East. Heck, we need to recruit better than we have been doing in the West, even Sumlin said so.
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Both are pretty good situations honestly as both have young talent.
Sure, I agree with that. Any other offseason and we would be the best job out there that isn't an entire staff replacement.
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I'm not at all saying we'll get Muschamp but some of y'alls reasoning is nothing more than low self-esteem
Maybe, maybe not. I am usually a sunshine pumper for A&M but I don't like this offseason to be hiring a DC. In retrospect we should have fired him after last season.
Oh well, better than looking for a head coach right now. Nebraska, UF, and Michigan and screwed- all the obvious good options that you can actually get got taken last cycle.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:10 pm to tmc94
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I'm not at all saying we'll get Muschamp but some of y'alls reasoning is nothing more than low self-esteem
It's based on history.
Fran had a DC to replace, offered big names, wound up hiring Gary Darnell out of an insurance agency.
Sherman had a DC hire to make, we heard big names, he wound up hiring Joe Kines out of a nursing home.
Sumlin had a DC hire to make, offered Nard Dog, got rejected, and hired Snyder.
It's going to happen again.
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