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Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:14 pm to
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The biggest problem I've seen with our receivers so far is that they're not getting enough separation. Murray was usually (not always) able to overcome that because he had an incredibly quick release and good velocity. Mason needs that separation, especially for throws over 15 yards or so. I'm not sure that Rumph will be able to separate better than the guys we had last week. But, he is tall and if he has good hands he might help Mason out.


what dp you base your lack of separation allegation on? please link plays so we can see...
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
1362 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:21 pm to
After I rewatched the game I thought Clemson did a nice job of covering the deep routes and forcing mason to throw short passes. I haven't looked at stats but it seems like Venables defense doesn't ever really give up huge passing plays
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3057 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:49 pm to
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what dp you base your lack of separation allegation on? please link plays so we can see...


Just an impression from rewatching the last three games. I've been critical of Mason, but there weren't a lot of plays were he had receivers really wide open. Most of his YAC have come off of very short passes, partly because deeper receivers were tightly covered and even when he hit them they didn't run far.

I started compiling some numbers a few weeks ago. In the Nebraska game, passes that travelled more than 5 yards past the LOS accounted for just 35 YAC on 7 completions, and 20 of that came on one play. In the GT game, there was 39 YAC on 13 completions of passes that travelled more than 5 yds past the LOS. I'll try to compile the Clemson data if I get a chance.

Those are pretty low numbers, due to several reasons. One, Mason wasn't doing a great job of hitting guys in stride. Two, the receivers didn't have a lot of separation, at least not by the time the ball got there. A third possibility is, like the Conley play I linked earlier, that Hutson simply waited too long to throw the ball and the defense got into better position. And it's also possible that some receivers are getting good separation but aren't targetted by Mason and I haven't seen them on TV. Since you can't always see the entire route on TV, it's kind of tough to tell what was the predominating factor.

If I have a chance I'll try to go back and look at Clemson.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 6:51 pm
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