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re: all time records? "modern era" of football? what's relevant?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:59 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:59 am to RollTide1987
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Very few teams from 20 years ago could hang with the teams of today. Different rules, different speeds, different philosophies.
The same thing will be true of this era 20 years hence.
I disagree with this completely. The thing you have to remember about the "integration criterion" is that there is a bit of a delayed effect.
While integration was fully implemented in the 1970s, it took about a decade for the its effects to really take root. CFB completely opened up in the 1980s. This was a product of integration, along with the fact that the elite football powers had lost sway over the perceptions of the voters.
The 1980s saw, for the first time, the emergence of truly elite athletes like Herschel and Bo. These guys would be able to step on the field today and be just as dominant as they were back then.
The 1980s also witnessed the emergence of elite athletic teams like Miami. A team like 1986-89 Miami would probably beat the best teams in CFB today.
And none of this would have been possible without integration, frankly.
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:21 am to TxTiger82
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The 1980s saw, for the first time, the emergence of truly elite athletes like Herschel and Bo. These guys would be able to step on the field today and be just as dominant as they were back then.
The 1980s also witnessed the emergence of elite athletic teams like Miami. A team like 1986-89 Miami would probably beat the best teams in CFB today.
Sure, Bo and Hershel could play today, but those teams would get smoked by today's teams.
You mentioned 1986 Miami. This is their starting OL:
254
246
258
281
247
Compared to last year's FSU:
300
330
322
320
315
No way that Miami team hangs with 2013 FSU.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:37 am to TxTiger82
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i start in 1947, post ww2 because a lot of programs stopped playing "big time" cfb, plus recruiting became a bit different as far as pay, etc. also, army and nd teams from ww2 (also aTm) where full of guys trying to get out of going to war and had their rosters stocked with draft dodgers, aTm tried to curb this by putting out inferior officers with brief training programs. "military college" during the war years is always associated with entitled, connected kids who could get out of the war or put it off and they all stockpiled the talent from around the country. theres nothing patriotic about army and its bull shite draft dodging nattys from the 40s.
I don't even know where to begin with the idiocy of this post
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