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re: Spurrier Unlocked: Saban is a Great Recruiter, Not a Great Coach
Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:27 pm to Jon Ham
Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:27 pm to Jon Ham
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I get that USC is not a traditional powerhouse program, but after 4 years of being under one of the "greatest coaches ever," and while being located in a nice recruiting area, that "excuse" should not be given much weight.
I don't think you do get it. Spurrier is by far the most successful coach in USC's history, a history that is littered with the remnants of coaches that did fine at other schools but fell into the abyss at USC (ask LSU fans about Dietzel, or, for that matter, ND fans about Holtz.) USC is like Vandy or Kentucky -- they literally had no hope of ever contending for a NC in the not-too-distant past (well, excepting the Bear's time at UK, of course.) Judging Spurrier as not being one of the greatest on the basis of his tenure at USC is flawed when there are likely only a handful of coaches that could have achieved the same level of success.
Also, the bit about SEC light earlier in your post cuts both ways...he's also managed to build up USC in a tougher SEC, no?
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:34 pm to randomways
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Also, the bit about SEC light earlier in your post cuts both ways...he's also managed to build up USC in a tougher SEC, no?
The east is arguably weaker. With the exception of UGA, the traditional power programs are down.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:40 pm to randomways
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I don't think you do get it. Spurrier is by far the most successful coach in USC's history, a history that is littered with the remnants of coaches that did fine at other schools but fell into the abyss at USC (ask LSU fans about Dietzel, or, for that matter, ND fans about Holtz.) USC is like Vandy or Kentucky -- they literally had no hope of ever contending for a NC in the not-too-distant past (well, excepting the Bear's time at UK, of course.)
I get that. But if Spurrier is as great as people make him out to be, he should have been able to overcome that and get closer to taking USC to a championship than getting his arse handed to him by Gene Chizik.
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Judging Spurrier as not being one of the greatest on the basis of his tenure at USC is flawed when there are likely only a handful of coaches that could have achieved the same level of success.
Maybe you're right, or maybe some coaches could have done even better. Who knows.
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Also, the bit about SEC light earlier in your post cuts both ways...he's also managed to build up USC in a tougher SEC, no?
Well he has been in the weaker of the two divisions the last 5 years. His permanent opponent has been Arkansas from the West when LSU, AU, and Bama have all been seeing multiple national championship games.
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